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An open discussion for the subs of Fet…

What do you think of slut trainers?

Do you empathize with the struggles a slut trainer has?

Do you share the struggles you or general slut trainees face?

If you’re with someone training you to be their slut do you ever wish they went further/held back less?

What assumptions or expectations do you have regarding slut trainers?

Should a slut trainer train their sub to pleasure them however they want as long as safe words aren’t spoken?

My curiosity comes from having slut training tendencies or desires, but hanging back a bit on some training of how I want to be pleasured because I’m afraid of manipulating or some other form of psychological persuasion.

A few examples would be training a partner to take ***ful (within reason) anal, be a cuckquean, let me and eventually beg me to *** on her body and face and in her mouth…

I will dirty talk about doing those things or even just chat about it and if my partner doesn’t say “no” outright or show a strong apprehension then I feel a desire to train them to do the thing(s) I want them to do.

TIA for sharing your thoughts!

I've noticed that there seems to be an overwhelming amount of men that seem to want at least the ***ful anal sex. Cum on my face was simply just too much for me personally the first time it happened, yet I didn't really have much connection with them either. That being said I feel like if I had that right person that with enough trust could bring me out of my shell and maybe even try cumming in my mouth ( it's a texture thing, more than anything)

Continual Consent is very good for slut trainers..
Whisper in her ear what you're about to do, then say "Now little slut, say please.."
That gives them full opportunity to consent or if needed, beg for something else if they don't.
It's been a core of my consent and play for almost two decades, and it's always worked extremely well for me.

I’ve been training sluts for over 35 years and have no struggles with any. All sluts who seek my training submit an application and are then thoroughly vetted in several areas and interviewed. They are informed of the requirements, rules, boundaries, and expectations. I have zero tolerance for bratty behaviors and there shall always be unpleasant corrective discipline just as there is positive praise and rewards for “good girl” behavior. Once that process is complete, initial limits identified, both hard and soft, and consents are secured, the trainee has the right to use their safe word at any time to pause and discuss or stop the scene. As far as approach to training, psychological control is paramount as trust is built. It is an integral component of slut training and is an element within the training agreement. Both positive and dark applications of psychological control are presented, discussed, including the nature of that psychological control and how and why it will be used. All consents for training approaches and potential applications of these approaches, put into written form and signed as a non binding, voluntary training contract. The trainee shall know and understand that they have the right to use their safe words and that it immediately revokes consent for any activity or scene that is occurring in the moment. Such things are discussed and become hard limits, or slower build up for that particular scene or technique applications for it and any remaining soft limits.

As far as training to please the trainer, it depends. If the sub/slave is submitting and surrendering to become the trainer’s property , by all means they are trained to please the trainer. If just general training with the idea that the sub is training to be an exceptional slut for any potential Dominant or Master, then they can certainly be taught and trained to perform specific pleasures for the trainer while they are submitting to training as it trains them with adaptability skills so they can quickly adapt and learn their new Dominant/Master’s preferences quickly.

Being a good Dominant or Master requires patience , the ability to teach, the ability to read their trainee and have laser-like focus to learn, file, and understand every aspect of who the trainee is, assess their current state, their potential , their strengths and weaknesses, so the trainer knows how far to bend without completely breaking the trainees.

Being and taking on the responsibilities of a Dominant , especially one who trains, guides, and shapes a sub, is not for novices without some supervision. It is an awesome responsibility and if being done correctly, can be exhausting due to the level of focus, along with time commitments, and the work to extinguish undesirable behaviors and attitudes.

Being a slut trainer is quite rewarding work and shouldn’t be undertaken without a strong understanding of human behavior , psychology, risks and rewards, a strong transparent communication style, and a clear, well-developed and understood written training contract between all parties involved and unique to each trainee.



I have come to realisation that there is a lot more from the trainee here than the trainer . Trainer can only guide and control , however without a willingness from the one taking the lessons, every goal is impossible to achieve .
However saying that, the guide has to work with a pace even if there is a willingness .
There are times when slut would push back , deny the requests simply because of unready ness or simply because it is out of bounds . The trainer needs to respect it well .

I guess the thing with any form of training comes down to what you both want.

Like in terms of end goals for someone who is "fully trained" what are your red lines, your must haves that they either MUST do, or must NOT do.  At the very start if this doesn't work for them you don't even need to worry about where things go, it isn't going to work

And likewise, what are your "would like to have" how many of those are stuff the other person would, or would potentially be, on board with.  

And the same goes for them, what do they want from the "training" 

I guess it's like in a day job you might go to your boss "hey, can we have some budget so I can do this training course" there'd have to be a justification at the end point for the time/*** invested otherwise you have skills the company doesn't really benefit from - and, likewise, your boss might say "you need to learn this...." if you don't want to learn it, if it doesn't interest you, then a different company or career path might be better.  

2 hours ago, eyemblacksheep said:

I guess the thing with any form of training comes down to what you both want.

Like in terms of end goals for someone who is "fully trained" what are your red lines, your must haves that they either MUST do, or must NOT do.  At the very start if this doesn't work for them you don't even need to worry about where things go, it isn't going to work

And likewise, what are your "would like to have" how many of those are stuff the other person would, or would potentially be, on board with.  

And the same goes for them, what do they want from the "training" 

I guess it's like in a day job you might go to your boss "hey, can we have some budget so I can do this training course" there'd have to be a justification at the end point for the time/*** invested otherwise you have skills the company doesn't really benefit from - and, likewise, your boss might say "you need to learn this...." if you don't want to learn it, if it doesn't interest you, then a different company or career path might be better.  

Thanks. The job analogy hits. For me, I have hard time getting the training part and normal, vanilla life to coexist. If I really went for it, my training would be very intensive and it’s near impossible to find someone who would be into that level of training and doing the things I’d ask for. And I already have a hard enough time getting partners as it is! Sometimes I just feel like I have to give up my desires and wants to relieve the *** of feeling so unfulfilled.
There’s also the Madonna wh**e complex. Like ideally I would have an extreme slut trainee whom I almost solely only do sexual things with, and then like my more vanilla trainee who I “treat better”, have more of emotional connection than sexual connection with. I find it very hard to be as intense and kinky in my training of women whom I interact with and develop emotional ties with in our normal everyday life

5 hours ago, MstrShawn said:

I’ve been training sluts for over 35 years and have no struggles with any. All sluts who seek my training submit an application and are then thoroughly vetted in several areas and interviewed. They are informed of the requirements, rules, boundaries, and expectations. I have zero tolerance for bratty behaviors and there shall always be unpleasant corrective discipline just as there is positive praise and rewards for “good girl” behavior. Once that process is complete, initial limits identified, both hard and soft, and consents are secured, the trainee has the right to use their safe word at any time to pause and discuss or stop the scene. As far as approach to training, psychological control is paramount as trust is built. It is an integral component of slut training and is an element within the training agreement. Both positive and dark applications of psychological control are presented, discussed, including the nature of that psychological control and how and why it will be used. All consents for training approaches and potential applications of these approaches, put into written form and signed as a non binding, voluntary training contract. The trainee shall know and understand that they have the right to use their safe words and that it immediately revokes consent for any activity or scene that is occurring in the moment. Such things are discussed and become hard limits, or slower build up for that particular scene or technique applications for it and any remaining soft limits.

As far as training to please the trainer, it depends. If the sub/slave is submitting and surrendering to become the trainer’s property , by all means they are trained to please the trainer. If just general training with the idea that the sub is training to be an exceptional slut for any potential Dominant or Master, then they can certainly be taught and trained to perform specific pleasures for the trainer while they are submitting to training as it trains them with adaptability skills so they can quickly adapt and learn their new Dominant/Master’s preferences quickly.

Being a good Dominant or Master requires patience , the ability to teach, the ability to read their trainee and have laser-like focus to learn, file, and understand every aspect of who the trainee is, assess their current state, their potential , their strengths and weaknesses, so the trainer knows how far to bend without completely breaking the trainees.

Being and taking on the responsibilities of a Dominant , especially one who trains, guides, and shapes a sub, is not for novices without some supervision. It is an awesome responsibility and if being done correctly, can be exhausting due to the level of focus, along with time commitments, and the work to extinguish undesirable behaviors and attitudes.

Being a slut trainer is quite rewarding work and shouldn’t be undertaken without a strong understanding of human behavior , psychology, risks and rewards, a strong transparent communication style, and a clear, well-developed and understood written training contract between all parties involved and unique to each trainee.



This is extensive! Much appreciated, thank you.
Are there any resources or practices you would recommend? Is there a community or a space where these types of discussions take place?

7 hours ago, edinburgh16563 said:

Continual Consent is very good for slut trainers..
Whisper in her ear what you're about to do, then say "Now little slut, say please.."
That gives them full opportunity to consent or if needed, beg for something else if they don't.
It's been a core of my consent and play for almost two decades, and it's always worked extremely well for me.

Like the whispering thing. Thank you.
What if a partner will say yes, consent, but really is doing it mostly cause they’re caught up in the moment and are enjoying it as dirty talk?

Thanks for the response.
How would a partner be able to tell you were wanting to or willing to push that boundary? I hear from subs that if they have to announce they want a dom to train them somehow or push them some way that it’s a turnoff for them, because it’s making them have to think and be in control then.
The *** of anal was something that just happened once with a longterm, committed partner, wasn’t even thinking about it that way, and then she was in a state unlike any other I’d seen her in when we were doing it. Soaking, dripping wet. Was incredible for her. Then I introduced it to another committed longterm partner later on and she became addicted to it. So, in my experience, it’s actually been more often about giving them what they want than me taking what I want. It’s always been a big turn on for me since that first partner cause it’s just so interesting and so intimate to do something so intense together. It’s such a hot experience

I am impressed that so many people are talking about training sluts. Where did all the slaves go? Why just going for a fraction if there is so much more?

On 9/12/2026 at 9:05 AM, Strandpirat said:

Where did all the slaves go? Why just going for a fraction if there is so much more?

One of the big changes in recent years is people realised they don't have to be all or nothing to get the kinda dynamic they want.  That goes for either side of the slash 

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