Nudes

[Ar****]

20 hours ago, jaxboro58399 said:

Yeah but we're not talking about knitting circle.com it's a fetish website.

Okay. This comment would be easy to shred but since we're in the Kink Academy let's have a productive educational engagement instead.

 

What does the word fetish specifically mean to you? What do you think it means to most kinksters? Do you consider this site/app to solely be about fetishes?

[AKA_Copper]

2 hours ago, AlexStormOffical said:

I can understand why a question like this may seem self focused, it is not. It's about how we choose to engage. Most of us meticulously craft our profiles to appeal to the largest subset of individuals we would like to invest our attention into. Many, though they won't admit it, browse potential based on images FIRST then read up on the profile (most skip that as well.) these apps are not designed to Garner attention for words, even though WE value it as personal. They focus on the base of physical attraction, and only then offer a deeper look if one is inclined. This in fact has no individual in mind, it is an authentic examination of what seems a self defying act most participate in.

"These apps are not intended to garner attention for words" and yet, look just how much attention your OP garnered.
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"Its about cowing to social expectations rather than being an authentic human"
Nice try.
On the contrary, for decades women have been "cowing" to social norms, particularly one where we owe men access to our bodies.
That's no longer the case.
How about women being authentically themselves by setting boundaries which they keep to or not "cowing" to social norms/the patriarchy/incels.
.
If you're worry is truly about "cowing" to social norms, your post would have been about something more important than highlighting a lack of "nudes" on this app to determine whether you find them attractive or not.

[Ka****]

Wow, that's all I can say

[Za****]

So…. Even from the point of view of Exhibitionist …. What ever I post on my gallery is what I want , control people to see…. Everyone decides how much  and what part of theirs to be seen. Some are comfortable , some not to show their self and respecting their choice is imperative . I would decline request for my private gallery … like was said above is our choice to decide who sees us and who not . The misconception that you should be entitled is soooo wrong . Some men sharing a dickpic as opening message should not think that they would receive nude pic in return … in the best case scenario their message would be left unanswered;) 

[br****]

You’re absolutely correct. I like the way you think your body is your temple. It should be appreciated. Nice to meet you. You’re very gorgeous.

[Hy****]

A person is a person is it not?

But if you're talking with someone and you're expecting something of their body, go to a place where you should expect such, this app from what I see is a community trying to make it safer and more enjoyable to meet, so that people will know eachother likes and what not. If you're only there for their body you probably shouldnt be in that situation

'Appreciators' now I understand theres kinks and actual people who could, but more often than not its perverts, whos gonna save and spread them, the shit ive listened to and helped with is out rageous the only scarcity is people who can control themselves and if denying people lewd images fuels criminal elements we have a bigger problem at large...
more images=/= less demand, it instead will = more problems and demands, this is a place where women have power over their accounts (not like they have power over their bodies and decide who sees what thats crazzyyy) dont try to push them over wanting to see a woman, I understand to verify ive been catfished too but to get to see all of it is just pathetic...
You ruin connection, the care, the beauty, sensuality, the unknown of such a situation and corrupt it with pride, greed, and lust

Some people should feel discrimination, shame, and guilt like me im weird af I know it and I accept no woman wants me, I can control myself not to hurt or harm a woman, im unique I got my strengths and weaknesses, again if someone has a problem with someone's decision they need to get help

If any of this is wrong lemme know cause genuinely im lost how you can forget about ALL aspects not just woman and horny men, horny women, perverts, theres kind hearted, there's ***rs, manipulators, blackmailers, stalkers, ALL SORTS OF REASONS NOT TO ALLOW THIS

*shrug* but then again, im only here for cuddles

[Al****]

6 hours ago, Zash said:

So…. Even from the point of view of Exhibitionist …. What ever I post on my gallery is what I want , control people to see…. Everyone decides how much  and what part of theirs to be seen. Some are comfortable , some not to show their self and respecting their choice is imperative . I would decline request for my private gallery … like was said above is our choice to decide who sees us and who not . The misconception that you should be entitled is soooo wrong . Some men sharing a dickpic as opening message should not think that they would receive nude pic in return … in the best case scenario their message would be left unanswered;) 

Please point out where I said anything about being entitled to someone's nudes or lack of control of them?

[Al****]

13 hours ago, CopperKnob said:

"These apps are not intended to garner attention for words" and yet, look just how much attention your OP garnered.
.
"Its about cowing to social expectations rather than being an authentic human"
Nice try.
On the contrary, for decades women have been "cowing" to social norms, particularly one where we owe men access to our bodies.
That's no longer the case.
How about women being authentically themselves by setting boundaries which they keep to or not "cowing" to social norms/the patriarchy/incels.
.
If you're worry is truly about "cowing" to social norms, your post would have been about something more important than highlighting a lack of "nudes" on this app to determine whether you find them attractive or not.

You literally are arguing for my point. I said we all are SOCIALLY COWING TO EXPECTATIONS using my own words, then you tell me women have been doing it for decades and try to make the argument about incels. I think my post is accurate and VERY important. Look at this thread and show me what stamp on the top left is on every single post. Images...chosen by the user as IDENTITY. You have to be more aware than this, are you trying to inject false narrative into the post just to have something to complain about?

[Al****]

14 hours ago, fififufu said:

I had mon*y on the OP doubling down. Anyone else?

No point in double, most of the negative comments are about things not even in the observation. If they can't digest one debated opinion and post, two will cause heads to explode.

[Al****]

23 hours ago, chandler867041 said:

You have no entitlement to the bodies of others. Even if what you said was true (it's not!) the "it seems weird to withhold nudes from someone you intend to have sex with" part is crazy. How are they supposed to know that's what they want until they meet and discover your personality? Not to mention; sex is temporary but a picture is forever.

Show me in my post where I claim I want anyone's nudes. Then point out where I am entitled to them. Read the f*cking post.

[Al****]

19 hours ago, cincinnati971051 said:

Way to make a post to ensure that nobody sends you nudes. Entitled much? I actually find it funny that you would think that a woman or anyone would send you nudes just based on your profile picture itself not to mention this post. I for one don’t even communicate with any man whose profile picture or any picture that he has with his tongue sticking out. I find it repulsing.

Well that's amazing right? Not a single line quoted from the post where I'm asking for anything. Yet you can come in here and attack me for looking at something most sites do and saying "hey look, this is fucked up". Good job. This is a vapid response.

[Al****]

19 hours ago, callmemoobsie said:

If you don't understand why people might not want to have their nudes available to the general public then you can't be trusted with said nudes and are one of the people that they are locked away from.

I do understand and am calling out it's foolishness. It's a behavior that SEPARATES...ON A CONNECTION PLATFORM. Jesus people this is not rocket science. I am speaking English.

[Al****]

20 hours ago, LadyV said:

For fucksake, man. The internet is full of porn sites that are full of naked pictures. Go look at nudes there! Look at that, no "discrimination against you" on fucking PornHub. Ogle, leer, and stare to your heart's content with Xhamster.

 

But that's not what you want, is it? Let's sit and really examine that for a moment because this is something fascinating to reflect on. 

 

You're complaining that no one is sharing their nudes with you because you want to see nudes.

However, porn exists. Your solution to wanting to see nudes is literally RIGHT THERE. A Google search away. 

But...that's not actually what you want, is it? 

If it was just about seeing naked people pics, you would just go look at porn. I get the vibe there's already some porn addicted brain rot going on here anyways. 

We know you already consume a lot of porn. You know where to find easily accessible porn immediately. 

 

So why are you so upset you can't get it here from random people when you can get it from a porn site? What is the difference?

 

Oh right...human connection and participation. 

 

You already consume an excessive amount of porn. But the problem is that those images and videos don't have a person immediately attached to them that you can interact with. It's a picture or a video with no person attached. You can't reach out and talk to those women who were performing as paid porn actresses. You can't connect with them past the 2-dimensional picture or video. You're visually consuming a sex act but there's no potential for actual human connection attached to it for you. You experience sexual arousal and your own physical stimulation but in complete social and emotional isolation. 

 

There it is. 

There's the difference. 

That's why you're actually so upset about random strangers not sharing nudes with you. 

 

You want porn with a person attached. You want someone to act like that 2-dimensional porn star pic/vid...but also interact with you personal. Talk to you personally. Sexually engage with you personally. You want human connection involved in your sexual stimulation. That's why just going to a porn site isn't good enough for you. You want a person to act like porn but specifically WITH you in a way porn never will. 

 

It's fucking sad when you lay it out because it becomes quite clear that you don't understand how to satisfy your very human needs for social engagement, emotional intimacy, or human connection without reducing yourself and someone else to porn actors on a screen. And in doing, you essentially guarantee you're never going to satisfy the need for intimacy that you actually crave cause you don't get the difference between porn and people. 

1. I made no complaints. That is your feeble interpretation of what was typed. You are infact pushing your own agenda on the text like many others here.
2. The only thing I am upset with is the strawman arguments that nitwits are attempting to have. All you need to do is read the words and have a rational (non emotional freakout because someone said you might have misguided self interests) good job being the latest version of your family trees genetic line..

[Al****]

21 hours ago, anthony40 said:

Personally I think those should be reserved for your partner when trust is established but on the other hand you can be proud of your body and expose it in a tasteful way like tight fitting clothing where youre still able to see the contour of said body without exposing the intimate areas. But to each their own.

I understand and respect that response. But that isn't the natural (nature based solution is it?) humans developed that thinking mode of monogamous sharing of what they call "personal things". But saying covered is ok while nearly nude(tight clothes hide little) is still saying hide it. Right? Why? How does nudity covered up in any way celebrate your natural self and should only be shared or valued by one person (assuming you marry) your entire life. This is the social box people blindly comply with. Good post though, seriously. Appreciate the rational observation.

[Al****]

Yesterday at 04:56 AM, Vinconexxy said:

Just because you can see me doesn't mean you get to see all of me

Funny. That's literally my last couple post lines. But why? What makes you so special? Our bodies are just human bodies. All of us are extremely close in appearance with only menial differences. So what extreme quality do you have that empowers you to think anyone needs to meet some requirements to see it? Why post limited, edited, manipulated, enhanced versions that focus specifically on your best qualities but entirely hide the rest? I know the answer to this question. Do you?

[Al****]

Yesterday at 08:03 AM, HornedAdder said:

This is the most incel thing I've read all day...

Ok Chad. I'll accept my place in your Alpha male, sigma, (by the way, alpha was dismissed by the man that invented the term shortly after he invented it . Look it up, education matters) well organized and clear engagement with the post rather than proving my point that most people are bandwagons. Hop aboard!!! Yee haw!!

[Al****]

Yesterday at 09:55 AM, Ianb01 said:

Good practice to not put your face in anything sensitive I feel. 

You may be right. Plato's allegory of the cave. Free them from the chains of illusion and they will try to rip you apart for it, because illusion is all they know.

[Al****]

It's clear to me that most of the comments are misrepresenting what this post is about. They are injecting words never said, attacking motives never expressed or implied, and just attacking in general. My assumption is they are not able to separate emotional response from intelligent discussions. Many of them argue for my point while thinking they are defending something. I even spy a few incel claims. I'm not continuing to lower myself to your level. It's clear you have a firm grasp of dumbassery. I can lead a horse but will never be able to open they eyes of Cheshire cats in lala land.

[Ar****]

37 minutes ago, AlexStormOffical said:

Show me in my post where I claim I want anyone's nudes. Then point out where I am entitled to them. Read the f*cking post.

There is neither need nor purpose for language like that, we are a safe community and it is against the ToU.

 

Your OP clearly pushes the narrative (best highlighted in point 3 - "We are saying to everyone "you don't qualify to even look at me"") that not showing everyone our nudes from the get-go is a negative thing.

 

You may not literally claim to want them or be entitled to them, but it is logical to follow that if you believe the absence of nudes is bad and you are advocating for change, you are also advocating for i.e. want people putting their nudes out upfront and centre.

 

If that was not your intention, perhaps consider how your post reads and think about making clarifications before going on the attack; it isn't as though just one or two people have interpreted your message this way - maybe reflect on why that is?

[Al****]

8 hours ago, Hypno-Fox said:

A person is a person is it not?

But if you're talking with someone and you're expecting something of their body, go to a place where you should expect such, this app from what I see is a community trying to make it safer and more enjoyable to meet, so that people will know eachother likes and what not. If you're only there for their body you probably shouldnt be in that situation

'Appreciators' now I understand theres kinks and actual people who could, but more often than not its perverts, whos gonna save and spread them, the shit ive listened to and helped with is out rageous the only scarcity is people who can control themselves and if denying people lewd images fuels criminal elements we have a bigger problem at large...
more images=/= less demand, it instead will = more problems and demands, this is a place where women have power over their accounts (not like they have power over their bodies and decide who sees what thats crazzyyy) dont try to push them over wanting to see a woman, I understand to verify ive been catfished too but to get to see all of it is just pathetic...
You ruin connection, the care, the beauty, sensuality, the unknown of such a situation and corrupt it with pride, greed, and lust

Some people should feel discrimination, shame, and guilt like me im weird af I know it and I accept no woman wants me, I can control myself not to hurt or harm a woman, im unique I got my strengths and weaknesses, again if someone has a problem with someone's decision they need to get help

If any of this is wrong lemme know cause genuinely im lost how you can forget about ALL aspects not just woman and horny men, horny women, perverts, theres kind hearted, there's ***rs, manipulators, blackmailers, stalkers, ALL SORTS OF REASONS NOT TO ALLOW THIS

*shrug* but then again, im only here for cuddles

To be clear, you are calling counters perverts for wanting visual interactions, claiming that you want a safe environment but shunning anyone that challenges the repressed behavior of needing to feel shame for sharing nudes and celebrating it? Yep you clearly read the post...

[Al****]

From here on I'll let the staff cope with harassment statements not on topic. Good luck people.

[AKA_Copper]

6 hours ago, AlexStormOffical said:

You literally are arguing for my point. I said we all are SOCIALLY COWING TO EXPECTATIONS using my own words, then you tell me women have been doing it for decades and try to make the argument about incels. I think my post is accurate and VERY important. Look at this thread and show me what stamp on the top left is on every single post. Images...chosen by the user as IDENTITY. You have to be more aware than this, are you trying to inject false narrative into the post just to have something to complain about?

My comment is certainly not validating your OP in any way shape or form. It's very much about sharing how women are challenging previous gender norms/misogyny/the patriachy by changing how we behave. One such way is by recognising and utilising strategies that protect our autonomy to make our own decisions one of which may well be, as you OP points out, to decide not to give all and sundry access to our bodies.
.
You talk about scarcity. I've actually written a post here previously about the scarcity mindset and how harmful that approach really is to you/men. It's called, "where are all the women" if you'd care to read it/learn.

[qu****]

I tried to find a single valid point in OP. I failed miserably. Look at how wildly unpopular your view is. I read most of the comments and you just dont have much support here. Take the L, walk away, and maybe try to understand why so many people vehemently disagree with you.

[Za****]

8 hours ago, AlexStormOffical said:

Please point out where I said anything about being entitled to someone's nudes or lack of control of them?

Your post suggest that . The statement “ more nudes -less demand “ the statement that a women should share a nude when getting to know someone … planing he to be inside her  or in case of men he to be inside … not everyone is on here to hook up … some look for real D/S relationship where trust me the nudes would be that last thing to be discussed. Others enjoy their kink without the need to Look for someone … so we are all here for  something  and if you are looking for nudes I am sure you will find some but In the same time respect the limits a women would set . Or a men  

[Ma****]

Yesterday at 03:50 PM, LadyV said:

For fucksake, man. The internet is full of porn sites that are full of naked pictures. Go look at nudes there! Look at that, no "discrimination against you" on fucking PornHub. Ogle, leer, and stare to your heart's content with Xhamster.

 

But that's not what you want, is it? Let's sit and really examine that for a moment because this is something fascinating to reflect on. 

 

You're complaining that no one is sharing their nudes with you because you want to see nudes.

However, porn exists. Your solution to wanting to see nudes is literally RIGHT THERE. A Google search away. 

But...that's not actually what you want, is it? 

If it was just about seeing naked people pics, you would just go look at porn. I get the vibe there's already some porn addicted brain rot going on here anyways. 

We know you already consume a lot of porn. You know where to find easily accessible porn immediately. 

 

So why are you so upset you can't get it here from random people when you can get it from a porn site? What is the difference?

 

Oh right...human connection and participation. 

 

You already consume an excessive amount of porn. But the problem is that those images and videos don't have a person immediately attached to them that you can interact with. It's a picture or a video with no person attached. You can't reach out and talk to those women who were performing as paid porn actresses. You can't connect with them past the 2-dimensional picture or video. You're visually consuming a sex act but there's no potential for actual human connection attached to it for you. You experience sexual arousal and your own physical stimulation but in complete social and emotional isolation. 

 

There it is. 

There's the difference. 

That's why you're actually so upset about random strangers not sharing nudes with you. 

 

You want porn with a person attached. You want someone to act like that 2-dimensional porn star pic/vid...but also interact with you personal. Talk to you personally. Sexually engage with you personally. You want human connection involved in your sexual stimulation. That's why just going to a porn site isn't good enough for you. You want a person to act like porn but specifically WITH you in a way porn never will. 

 

It's fucking sad when you lay it out because it becomes quite clear that you don't understand how to satisfy your very human needs for social engagement, emotional intimacy, or human connection without reducing yourself and someone else to porn actors on a screen. And in doing, you essentially guarantee you're never going to satisfy the need for intimacy that you actually crave cause you don't get the difference between porn and people. 

Nailed it!