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47 minutes ago, UltraVioletNekoGirl said:

That kind of seems like the legitimate distributor of a drug gets shutdown, then dealers on the street get more business and put their dangerous products in circulation. Supply and demand, but when the suppliers aren't vetted things can get even more dangerous and out of hand.

yep

I deal with DCMA takedowns and some of the sites I land on are horrific.  And also these are the ones most likely to ignore the DCMA (but, report can at least help get them delisted/deboosted on google) 

5 hours ago, aligurl80 said:

. When I started out in the bdsm community almost 22 years ago it was a different world. It was not about sex as it was about power exchange. I am a full Christian and went to church multiple times a week. I just felt like I needed to submit to a man. That he should be boss in the relationship. I never slept around. I had one Master and it was only him. Heck, I had two d/s relationships that each lasted 2 years each and never had any sexual content to them at all. Now a days it feels like most people who say they are into BDSM are only using it as a way to promote non monogamy and hedonism. Which is NOT what bdsm is about at all. Those that are poly, ENM, and hedonistic are not under the BDSM umbrella. They are separate lifestyles that just participate in bdsm activities. This is what drives me crazy about kinksters these days. So many times I’ve been told that I’m not a real submissive or slave because I refuse to hook up with random men I don’t know. That I shouldn’t be here since I already have a Master if I’m not willing to play on the side. When I say I’m only here for friends I am constantly told that this choice is referring to FWB and not platonic friends. I need to state this clearly, you don’t have to have sexual encounters to practice bdsm.

I feel your experiences are valid - but I was also about 22 years ago and my experiences were quite different.  But then also understanding the history prior to this, hedonism and different shades of non-monogamy have been a part of the fetish communities, BDSM culture, etc etc etc for much longer - particularly 60s and 70s.  

There were those in the 90s, and this will vary a lot by territory, who tried to sanitise kink a lot and put firm definitions down - and you may well have come in to the tail end of that.   Of course, this said - I know when I started going to fetish events I had conflict, there were those who claimed to be into BDSM who were critical of these stating "it's not real BDSM - just bored middle aged couples trying to spice up their sex life" and while there was nothing sexual at the events... a lot of people did end up in spaces after the event where they did.

However - of course when people tell you you're "not a real submissive" they're wrong and of course are trying to manipulate you - but their ill behaviour, as unacceptable as it is, doesn't represent an overall change.

 

Porn has the same effects as caffeine.. addicting but it wears off quick.. people are being overzealous with what content is on the Internet yet what do they do at home? Kids run off with mommy n daddy's m*ney in a digital world where they can catch a ride, find a party, find a hookup and be pregnant without having ever witnessed porn in any capacity and it's the weekend.. it's like blaming dr*gs for the world's problems.. realistically only a small percentage of users turn into addicts and even a lesser portion of that stay addicts or die. 

As long as its consenting adults.. should a kid watch that?? Idk.. kids are allowed to do all sorts of shit that's 100x worse or life threatening all the time.. but knowing about sex or sexuality is gonna doom us all?? Yeah ok lmaoo good luck pushing that narrative much longer

Just now, thetallgentleman said:
Fiction is fiction and that's where porn lives

MOST OF IT

5 hours ago, thetallgentleman said:

Fiction is fiction and that's where porn lives

absolutely. But also making sure the education is there so people are taught it's fiction

(even "authentic" stuff lacks a back story and context.) 

As someone who is unfortunately addicted to porn myself, i see all porn as bad.
50 minutes ago, justanothername said:
As someone who is unfortunately addicted to porn myself, i see all porn as bad.

Well then for you. Someone can have a food addiction....they will still need to eat. Food inherently isn't bad. Porn itself isn't bad. You just wired it wrong

I agree, the young are exposed to sexually explicit material much too early, and do end up hooked onto porn often by the fault of the sexual revolution attempting to make it normalized into the minds of ***. My stance on porn is that there’s a place and time for it, but it’s bad from an ethical perspective.
  • 2 weeks later...
This is conjecture on how psychology. Since you don’t really know how this works and are just copying puritanical talking points, what youre mistaking for reality is actually your personal feelings of the matter being projected onto others.
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