kinky Christians

[le****]

Nothing is more interesting than going to a house party and seeing the couple you sit next to in Sunday school and she's on her knees getting it from her hubby and another guy at the same time... Then trying to play it off the next morning.

[hu****]

Wednesday at 06:25 PM, CasualPlay said:

Yes my father participated in that when I was young. The subservience of women takes precedence from the opening words of the creation story to the closing words of revelation. In fact, in the original texts Eve was the SECOND woman God created. His first attempt, Lilith, was too headstrong and willful to obey Adam. So God banished her and created Eve from Adams rib to ensure her subservience. Right out of the gate, women are intended to serve men. I'd say that just about says it all.😂

What book are you getting that mythology from?

[Ca****]

5 hours ago, hunguncu8 said:

What book are you getting that mythology from?

The Torah

[Ha****]

October 29, CasualPlay said:

Yes my father participated in that when I was young. The subservience of women takes precedence from the opening words of the creation story to the closing words of revelation. In fact, in the original texts Eve was the SECOND woman God created. His first attempt, Lilith, was too headstrong and willful to obey Adam. So God banished her and created Eve from Adams rib to ensure her subservience. Right out of the gate, women are intended to serve men. I'd say that just about says it all.😂

Where in the Tora is mentioned, what you wrote about Lilith?

[Ca****]

2 hours ago, Handcuffs_1985 said:

Where in the Tora is mentioned, what you wrote about Lilith?

In the Genesis, creation story. You've gotta remember that the Torah IS the old testament BEFORE the Christian rewrites and redactions. Even that version was taken from the Babylonian creation myth, hence "And God said 'Let us create man in our image." Yahweh was one of 70 *** of the great god El, the most famous of his siblings being Ba'al. Also why the first commandment is "I am the Lord, YOUR God. You shall not have any other gods before ME." Not "I am the ONLY God." There are a lot of arguments over those "typos," but they were intentionally written that way for a reason. Ask a Jew, they'll tell you about Lilith.

[Ca****]

2 hours ago, Handcuffs_1985 said:

Where in the Tora is mentioned, what you wrote about Lilith?

Just checked my story, Lilith was in the Talmud. She didn't make it into the Torah, but she's still well known among the Jewish faith.

[Ha****]

44 minutes ago, CasualPlay said:

In the Genesis, creation story. You've gotta remember that the Torah IS the old testament BEFORE the Christian rewrites and redactions. Even that version was taken from the Babylonian creation myth, hence "And God said 'Let us create man in our image." Yahweh was one of 70 *** of the great god El, the most famous of his siblings being Ba'al. Also why the first commandment is "I am the Lord, YOUR God. You shall not have any other gods before ME." Not "I am the ONLY God." There are a lot of arguments over those "typos," but they were intentionally written that way for a reason. Ask a Jew, they'll tell you about Lilith.

The christians didn't rewrite the old testament.

[Ca****]

13 hours ago, Handcuffs_1985 said:

The christians didn't rewrite the old testament.

😄 there are many books completely left out. And more changed to fit the narrative desired for the Bible. I'm sorry if I offended you, but that's the known truth.

[sp****]

Early gnostic believers where famous for having orgys it's not anti faith in my opinion to enjoy having fun with your human body or anyone else's it's a celebration of sexual nature

[Deleted Member]

I struggle with this too. It can be difficult because when people in church do hear kinky, they think passing partners around or orgies(adultery); not I like being tied up and made to beg for it. I also experience that because of this I recieve some distance from people in the kink community too. Especially being a male who identifies as submissive. I think people perceived the idea of a Christian male being submissive as suspicious. To help me not give up on this part of myself I try to remember St. Augustine of Hippo (perhaps the greatest theologian in Christianity [maybe even all religions]) wrote that everything in the Bible that can be said of a man can also be said of a woman in his book The Confessions, though I can't remember the exact place (it's a great read for anyone, especially Christians, and I highly recommend reading it). So I try to hold on to my submissive side as a piece of me that can honor God and demonstrate the equality and and self giving love that God asks of me.

That being said, I do try to follow three rules regarding sex and relationships, especially when seeking someone in the BDSM community: monogamy, no exploitation (conscientious and fun exploitation built in trust and care is not what I am referring to here), and no one significantly younger (half your age +9).

[gy****]

Let's just say for the record that Christian people CAN BE KINKY, you can still follow the lord and have the best sex of your life, the key is finding the best partner with the same sexy ideas as you do, who is willing to talk about them and MAKE IT HAPPEN in the bedroom

[no****]

I'm so glad I found this because I feel the same way. :(

[am****]

I am sure there are a whole lot of us out there. But I won't deny who I am, and kink is part of me.

[Deleted Member]

I'm christian and I'm kinky but I love Jesus so much, he understand and he know what you like. He still love you no matter what. Sex is gift too and with right partner it's safe and keep it only safe kinks no hurt or dangerous.

[Di****]

6 hours ago, JanRaven said:

I'm christian and I'm kinky but I love Jesus so much, he understand and he know what you like. He still love you no matter what. Sex is gift too and with right partner it's safe and keep it only safe kinks no hurt or dangerous.

I agree with this, and id also say that in all sincerity, the reason I didn't go to church is because there isn't a church where I would feel comfortable discussing kink. That's actually a lie, idgaf I'll talk KINK and/or YHWH/Yeshua/HOLY GHOST FIRE any time, any where, with any one, at the slightest indication the listener might be receptive.
KINK is a huge part of my life and identity, and (within age -appropriate group settings) if I'm not able to express myself (appropriately, meaning be allowed to discuss and contemplate the intersection of KINK and the King) then it's not somewhere that I belong.

I can tell you first-hand, my relationship with YHWH has widened, and my understanding of who He is and how He operates has gotten so much deeper as I've learned my own place and role in my own relationship with my sub, and even now as I'm single, I continue to learn. Holy holy holy every new life experience just shows me another facet of his Glory, and what can I do but become more grateful and do what I can to share that glory with whoever is willing to listen.

[Di****]

I feel no conflict between my faith and my lifestyle. If anything I feel conflict between my UPBRINGING and my lifestyle but there is nothing about my FAITH or my RELATIONSHIP with YHWH that is in conflict with my KINK

[Ba****]

Wait wasn’t christanity one of the religions with the least conflict with BDSM in general??
It’s kind of high on submission, discipline and borderline non-specific shame

Also the only place where i‘ve seen all kinds of punishment, from sleeping while standing in the corner of a hallway over public humiliati@n and purposeful exclusion to straight up caning in real life was catholic boarding school, despite most of them being illegal even in the military of my country

Don’t worry, you are a filthy sinner anyway so as long as you are sufficiently ashamed of yourself you are good
The dominant may have some internal reframing to do but for the submissive there is no conflict with being christian

[Deleted Member]

I definitely share this dilemma. I am a man, but I enjoy (like super duper enjoy) wearing lingerie and women's clothing. The Bible says a woman shouldn't wear men's clothing or men women's, but hoodies and T-shirts are unisex, so how does the rule apply to those? What about actors back in the day who provided for their families by playing female roles? And what does 'wear' mean- "ever put on" or "present oneself publicly in"? If I marry a Woman who sometimes likes to peg dolled-up, tied-up lil me, would it be ok since it would be done out of love and kept in the "marriage bed"? I know for the right one I could give up my kinks (I have others hehe). I really want to marry and raise a family with a Domme, but more importantly I want not mine but God's will to be done. If you've read this far, here's the main thing: pray. Pray for guidance, for forgiveness, and for like-minded, similarly conflicted kinky Christ followers out there. I'm praying for you too 😘 God bless

[ge****]

Sex-positive Christian here. I'm separating from my wife, and I'm not looking to remarry. I'm looking forward to a ho season, playing catchup for abstinent 20s, lol. I'm excited to explore polyamory, and kinks of various kinds. And I do that while maintaining my faith through religious practice.

[Sk****]

Lust is a sin, but Christianity openly states all people are sinners. You aren't expected to be a Saint. Further, the entire Christian religion is built specifically around Salvation. Without Sin, there is no Repent. Without Repent, there is no Salvation, without Salvation, there would be no Christianity.

Imo, Lust is the least bad Sin/Vice to have, so long as you're sane about it. Standard safe practice in BDSM ensures there is no victim (including all parties). Sex doesn't cause cancer. Just dont become a total addict/junkie.

The attitude of early Christian leadership was sex should not be wasted. It should start families, and not destroy families. It was about growing the population for the health of the community, not about ethics. This explains the disconnect that coveting the neighbors wife is wrong, but somehow a woman should have marry the grapist if it results in pregnancy.

As a species, we are past the point of population scarcity threatening our existence. 'Family Values' still have a valid place in society, but not everyone needs to start one as overpopulation is a bigger threat. Many of us have had kids, theyre grown and/or the kink lifestyle does not interfere with family values or population anyways.

So...long story short... you're supposed to try not to Sin then fail (because you are human), feel guilty, ask Forgiveness, then be granted it, and see ya next Sunday. Rinse, Lather, Repeat.

I dont think that is even necessary unless Lust/kink is causing some kind of objective problem.