Should men pay for their women’s nails and hair?

[Ll****]

Of course they do I meant to say

[ey****]

"should" - as a blanket statement - is a no.

However, like a lot of things there's context.  Like if someone would like to pay for someone's hair/nails/etc then providing it's not through ***/manipulation then meh (for example "I paid for... you owe me..." or, of course, an expectation on what their appearance should be)

Equally, yes in the wider online and not-permitted-on-this-site type dynamics there are ladies who are "I'm going for nails/hair/drinks/whatever.... cover it" which again there's no harm as part of a consensual arrangement. 

[Sp****]

Context being what. Girlfriends, wives, subs? Girlfriends/ wives l can handle things like that on a necessity basis. If *** is an issue why not. Subs however I demand looking how I want, when i want and where I want. Especially in my care. If my subs let themselves go punishment is expected and known so there shouldn't be any issues. I set up stylists to come by regularly and pamper my little precious ones.
 

[Ka****]

No. I’m a grown ass adult. I don’t need or want a man/ partner to pay for my hair and nails. If I can’t afford it then I don’t go out. I’ll do them myself. Plus I feel like if a man pays then he has the right to choose style and color. I’m not going to be walking around with some hooker red nails because I let a man pay for me. Not my style. And yes I am submissive, I just have my own style. Then again I don’t like a man paying anything for me. I’ve been with Master for two years and he paid for my dinner once and it made me so uncomfortable I snuck the *** in his pocket when he wasn’t looking. Yes I got in trouble for it but I felt better about myself. I once met a casual friend for lunch. He refused to let me pay my half no matter what I said. He was older, like 75 and said that wasn’t how he was raised. So I finally agreed instead of arguing and ruining a good visit. But then we got to the parking lot and went to hug goodbye and he grabbed my ass with one hand and my boob with the other and told me to have a great day. We’d met before and he’d never done that. So what changed? He paid for lunch.

[Ms****]

Hell yes they should! Hair, nails and toes

[Ka****]

I think if you want us to have our hair and nails done and it not something we normally do then yes

[Mi****]

Yes

[Ki****]

No.

[Ja****]

I like getting my nails and hair done, but I pay for that myself. If a man requested something specific I’d expect them to at least offer.

[do****]

They are looking good for themselves, not for men..

[Vi****]

Looking good is very expensive. My foundation alone is $60 and that’s only one product out of 15 that I use. And having a beautiful woman on your arm who takes care of herself and looks amazing Definitely ups your status when you go places. Not to mention that generosity is very sexy.

[Ki****]

Okay, I may relent a little. If she wants Me to look good driving, and men SHOULD look good driving, I think she can buy me something Italian with a nice drop top to drive so that I look good!

Then I’ll buy her hair and nails

[mr****]

What a dumb question it’s weak men like this giving women unrealistic expectations

[Vi****]

When I looked the very best that I can, I feel confident and beautiful and sexy, and I hope that that comes across to my partner or date. He may not know all of the things that I’ve done, but I do believe that it has a cumulative effect. He can tell from looking at me and sensing my energy and if he’s paid for part of that, then he becomes a part of that aura.

[VK****]

Lots of extremely polarised opinions here which reflect personal attitudes rather than a proper understanding of BDSM dynamics in the round. I'm sure many folks have stumbled across the profile of an Uber Domme here, where it's made very clear what the sub's (male or female) role entails, including but not limited to, personal grooming in all its form. Similarly there are some very high maintenance Princesses who also expect red carpet treatment. They may be outliers, but they are extremely common in the scene. As long as their expectations are clearly communicated, why the Hell not? There's zero deceit involved. For the rest, it's usually less transactional, whatever the basis of the dynamic, a good Dom ought to spoil his sub occasionally, just as a vanilla lady would expect a little something on her birthday, for Christmas and Valentines as a minimum and the occasional reminder of how much she means to her Dom at other times. Pretty much always on a reciprocal basis as a relationship based on a one way flow soon founders. Needy ingratitude is never a good look. 

So be a little more 'Woke' folks, see this from all angles and accept that maybe all, some or none of it is for you and throw your opinion out there, it's what the OP asked for, but be happy for the others who enjoy it, not disparaging. It's how Kink is supposed to be. YKINMKBIOK. 

[GeneGrey]

I’m so sorry, I didn’t mean for this topic to get out of hand. I really meant in a vanilla relationship like between a boyfriend and girlfriend. Dynamic relationships weren’t necessarily my intention as I assumed everyone would get the idea that this sub-forum is meant for off-topic discussions not necessarily kink-related or BDSM-related, but they’re always welcomed to chime in if they want.

I also made a mistake by saying that women get their nails and hair do it for their men. That’s definitely not true. They definitely do it for themselves. I was wrong in saying that. And of course women will always have the right to choose for themselves too. If they want to pay for themselves then of course they have the right to do that. However, I also love showing generosity too. If I’m allowed to do so, I would love to volunteer in taking care some of their expenses for them. My apologies for offending the ladies out there.

[Pi****]

I'd say absolutely if they're trying to look good for me, but if they trying to look good for others probably not

[ca****]

As described above, I feel the original question was not best 'laid out'

For me from a wider human viewpoint... why make anything a 'should'....  can it not be a choice?   If we lose the abiltiy to make choices / for ourselves (whatever the motivation).. then we truly are fucked.

[la****]

I agree I like to put on latex gloves and do all these things and more on women.

[Sa****]

If they want to?

[BlueGrace]

No. Women aren’t entitled to have anyone pay for their things. No one is entitled to have things paid for. Not all women put effort into their physical appearance for their partners. Some women do it for themselves. My Doms offer to pay for my nails and hair and I decline.
I let them pay for my books occasionally.

[Gi****]

Yes, always, especially if they like picking the color.

[th****]

Yes if i want my hair and nails done my hubby paying if he wants to see them nails wrapped around him

[Sk****]

Is she going to pay for his gym membership, supplements, and his barber? If she thinks a guy with a nice car is attractive, is she helping pay the note? If she likes a man in a suit, is she pulling out her credit card at the Tailers? She paying for their dry cleaning?

The bottom line is double standards are toxic, and make a poor foundation to a relationship. A two way street is going to be a lot healthier.

That said, 'keeping score' is also toxic and some level of asymmetry in forms and amounts of giving/receiving are natural and ok. I think its best to avoid transactional dynamics with too short of a line between *** and sex, even in normal/vanilla relationships.

[Su****]

Absolutely not. Maybe as a gift occasionally. But my nails and hair are part of my self expression. I am not sub 24/7 so I have my own sense of style and these things reflect that.