Can all handle a woman who kneels by choice?

[De****]

There isn’t an instant button on this. However trust. If you feel safe then the rest will follow naturally. It’s a dynamic and that dynamic looks different for each relationship.

[Va****]

1 hour ago, BraggiR said:

A dominant is worthy of the trust by the empathy, understanding, control and flexibility they show.

I know the Master of the Scarlet Chamber in Southampton, a title well deserved. I’ve seen him discuss clear limits beforehand thoroughly and professionally, check in regularly, he always takes a person to their comfort zone +1 and I’ve been in a hotel with a partner 24 hours later with him checking in by phone and text to help manage the sub drop.

As I’m a pleasure dom, I outsource all of the heavy BDSM to him. My subs love it, and all four of us benefit from the arrangement (although bratting sometimes occurs just to get a proper beating it turns out).

“It turns out” 😂 made my day, Sir.

[lostInSwizzerland]

A woman who can tell me to go fuck myself and still chooses to kneel? That’s far more interesting than a woman who has never learned to stand on her own.

I’ve never been particularly impressed by obedience that comes from f@ar, insecurity, or the need to please. Anyone can demand submission. Far fewer can inspire it without having to beg for it, f@rce it, or constantly remind everyone in the room who’s in charge.

A strong-willed woman doesn’t need someone to take the reins of her life. She needs someone who understands that she already holds them perfectly well.

Perhaps what makes her want to surrender isn’t strength alone, but the rare combination of intelligence, composure, wit, and the ability to see through her little games without killing the pleasure of playing them.

And confidence matters. Real confidence doesn’t get offended by a sharp tongue, challenged by an inconvenient question, or threatened by a woman who knows exactly who she is. It can smile at the provocation, appreciate the mind behind it, and know when to play along and when to hold its ground.

But here’s the part I find most interesting: a woman who can stand against the world and still feels safe enough to let her guard down with you isn’t giving up her power. She’s trusting you with it.

That trust is earned in the small things, long before the spectacular ones. In consistency. In attention. In knowing the difference between a brat who wants to play and a person whose trust you’ve actually damaged.

And perhaps that’s the real test for a Dominant: not whether he can make a strong woman kneel, but whether she still wants to when she has absolutely nothing to prove and nothing to fe@r.

Because a kneeling woman can be a beautiful sight.

A woman who could walk away, knows it, and chooses to stay?

That’s the one who makes you pay attention.

[li****]

I tried this a while back and it wasn’t for me. I get it that there are bratty subs or alpha subs out there and I’m all for discussion. But my experience always came down to, a). If the sub isn’t listening to you it’s because THE DOM isn’t captivating enough on this day or this week. And b). The Dom is the dom unless they’re doing it incorrectly. Then it’s their fault and need to learn the right way.

I think that’s fine for whoever wants the challenge and constant push and pull dynamic.
Me personally? I need someone who I know is captivated from day 1, studies me to see if I can lead well, and then yearns to submit because the rewards of subservience far outweigh the me freedom of independence.

[Sh****]

Your writing is soo beautiful! You are describing one of my dreams. A woman who is strong, competent and capable, who submitts willingly... wow, that is special. This lets the dom know he is wanted as well. Not because he demands it, not because he takes it. He has earned the submission by filling her needs, wants and desires. A submissive will only do this in the presence of a Dom that makes her feel safe letting go. Trusting he will make decisions that are in line with what she wants and moving her forward toward what she needs. Two equals walking a path together. One submitting willingly and the other leading with strength, compassion and understanding. I hope to find the traits of enthusiastic consent and voluntary submission in a woman one day. That is the woman I can be tender with when she needs it and brutal to when she wants it.

[Me****]

Well I as a dominant will say it boils down to correct dominance. Sometimes for something specific being switch is okay but if I want to dominate I will do it effortlessly and smoothly

[Li****]

I think for me a dominant man who can take the lead without *** is the most attractive. What I mean by that is if we have a date planned be a leader. Book the restaurant order our meal open the doors. Lead me when we walk but not that I am fallowing you but side by side as my protector. There are so many little things one can do to show dominance without being an ass about it.

[Adam2034]

What you are describing is a gentleman

[Ba****]

I’m a bit confused

Most characteristics here fit most submissive women, the most radical being a bit of brattiness and even that isn’t uncommon
As i understand it there are only women who don’t kneel, women who kneel by choice and victims in this context

Also as far as i’m aware there is no structural difference between dominating a “alpha submissive” and any other sub from a dom perspective cause they are “alpha” in relation to other subs, as in a second in command within a larger poly-dynamic or a experienced mentor figure

So i’m just gonna ask bluntly:
Is this a “not like other girls”-thing??

[Sa****]

I believe in a power play where submission is the ultimate form of vulnerability, concent and relinquishing of power. While the dom is the one leading, a "bratty" sub is the one in control because submission is the last barrier and the sub is the one who decides.

Reminds me of a song lyric:

I don't want you to do as I say, I want you to want to do as I say...

[st****]

First comes trust, backed with respect, the rest surrenders to the connection as it deepens

[de****]

I feel like it depends on the individual, for me it's intelligence.