Deleted Member Posted April 18 9 minutes ago, Deadpool359 said: This is why I usually start my messages with “I apologise for my gender” I don’t know what scares me more that some men don’t get it or some that get butt hurt by people posting about it. As someone who worked in gyms for 20years, they want the rewards without the reps. Great post. We still get the rewards, hoss. You dont- but we do.
La**** Posted April 18 Author 37 minutes ago, 333stray333 said: I just think its your perspective and opinion. Theres many energies, languages, and ways to play. Maybe its the “wrong” way to aaproach YOU- but they dont know you yet, do they? And given the difference in philosophy- they probably dont want to know you- youre just a body- no- a photo, until you show your overly self important and sensitive personality. Its just not that big of a deal m8. Dance or dont. If you don't know *me* then you don't come in guns (cock) blazing. Simple social skills. If you choose to, then I'll delete. This is my opinion, nothing more. A lot of people agreeing with me, tho...
Bl**** Posted April 18 This is a great writeup. Very interesting and well written. I agree with a lot of the points. But I do want to stress that not all women are a monolith. Meaning that some of these tactics that women hate and complain about work on other women and are even preferred by them. Sometimes other women like them, and they would be disappointed if it were to suddenly vanished from the Earth. I also want to add that I agree 1,000,000% with what she’s saying but that sometimes guys are just going to approach you and strike out. That not every man or a person that approaches you is going to be 1,000,000% your cup of tea and I think that that’s for the best. It makes it more special and significant whenever you strike a genuine connection with somebody. Just my two cents I would like to add.
Deleted Member Posted April 18 4 minutes ago, BluntestDiagram said: This is a great writeup. Very interesting and well written. I agree with a lot of the points. But I do want to stress that not all women are a monolith. Meaning that some of these tactics that women hate and complain about work on other women and are even preferred by them. Sometimes other women like them, and they would be disappointed if it were to suddenly vanished from the Earth. I also want to add that I agree 1,000,000% with what she’s saying but that sometimes guys are just going to approach you and strike out. That not every man or a person that approaches you is going to be 1,000,000% your cup of tea and I think that that’s for the best. It makes it more special and significant whenever you strike a genuine connection with somebody. Just my two cents I would like to add. I nominate this gentleman as my parties speaker.
Deleted Member Posted April 18 Just now, 333stray333 said: I nominate this gentleman as my parties speaker. He uses big words- and big percentages!
Deleted Member Posted April 18 1 hour ago, MistressE7787 said: I agree with your post that these men come on here and just message women whatever they want, never researching the lifestyle they are stepping into. It goes the same way on the femdom side of things. Who are you to define and decide lifestyle?
Mi**** Posted April 18 7 minutes ago, 333stray333 said: Who are you to define and decide lifestyle? Haha!! Looks like you want some attention really bad. I said what I said. If you don't agree, idc. Have a good day😉
le**** Posted April 18 Porn is transactional. There is no building of trust. There is just transaction. There is no steps along the way. It’s just two people who want something they can provide for each other. What you are looking for is clearly something different. You want someone to manipulate you first I guess. Tell you everything you want to hear and do everything you want them to do without you having to tell them. I guess no one ever taught you that charisma and sociopathy are directly linked. Or maybe that’s just what you are looking for.
La**** Posted April 18 Author 1 minute ago, Antman603 said: Porn is transactional. There is no building of trust. There is just transaction. There is no steps along the way. It’s just two people who want something they can provide for each other. What you are looking for is clearly something different. You want someone to manipulate you first I guess. Tell you everything you want to hear and do everything you want them to do without you having to tell them. I guess no one ever taught you that charisma and sociopathy are directly linked. Or maybe that’s just what you are looking for. Started so well, and then it devolved into assumption and derision. Thanks for your input.
le**** Posted April 18 23 minutes ago, Minstrel said: Started so well, and then it devolved into assumption and derision. Thanks for your input. lol. You said in your post you want people to know the words without telling them the words. So you either expect mind readers, or highly charismatic/sociopathic people who tell you what you want to hear.
La**** Posted April 18 Author 7 minutes ago, Antman603 said: lol. You said in your post you want people to know the words without telling them the words. So you either expect mind readers, or highly charismatic/sociopathic people who tell you what you want to hear. No, it's your base assumption (that I want someone to manipulate me) is wrong, so the rest of your point was therefore irrelevant.
La**** Posted April 18 Author 8 minutes ago, Antman603 said: lol. You said in your post you want people to know the words without telling them the words. So you either expect mind readers, or highly charismatic/sociopathic people who tell you what you want to hear. My poem literally references communication and negotiation.
le**** Posted April 18 1 minute ago, Minstrel said: My poem literally references communication and negotiation. Communication as long as it fits exactly within your parameters. God forbid they use the chorus. Do you have any interest in communicating what they want? Even when it disagrees with what you want?
le**** Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, Minstrel said: No, it's your base assumption (that I want someone to manipulate me) is wrong, so the rest of your point was therefore irrelevant. I’m not saying you WANT to be manipulated. Just that you probably can’t tell the difference because you are actively looking for people who tell you what you want to hear, you will naturally gravitate toward those types. Whereas an honest person who simply tells you what they are looking for is going to be rejected by you.
La**** Posted April 18 Author 13 minutes ago, Antman603 said: I’m not saying you WANT to be manipulated. Just that you probably can’t tell the difference because you are actively looking for people who tell you what you want to hear, you will naturally gravitate toward those types. Whereas an honest person who simply tells you what they are looking for is going to be rejected by you. I don't agree. One, that I can't tell the difference (or how you could surmise that as you don't know me or my ability to read people) and also two, that someone who comes in honestly comes in with a load of filth. How do honesty and filth correlate? I am looking for someone who understands and appreciates the depth and intimacy of a Ds connection. Someone who approaches me honestly with that in mind will approach me differently than someone who has a desire to dirty fuck at the front of their thoughts.
Ha**** Posted April 18 So interesting that the only replies that have an issue with this post are from men. If only they’d shut up for once in their life and critically think about an opinion a woman has shared with them. Suppose there is no saving some people.
de**** Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, Halfpon said: So interesting that the only replies that have an issue with this post are from men. If only they’d shut up for once in their life and critically think about an opinion a woman has shared with them. Suppose there is no saving some people. You make a good point but a few of us have nothing but good to say. I agree 💯
Ha**** Posted April 18 27 minutes ago, denver24673 said: You make a good point but a few of us have nothing but good to say. I agree 💯 Choosing to use the word “but” makes it seem as though you are dismissing my point because I didn’t point out that men agreed with the OP. Me pointing out that only men disagreed with the post does not mean that no men agreed. It simply wasn’t the most important thing to comment on. Your comment has shifted the focus I was trying to create.
de**** Posted April 18 9 minutes ago, Halfpon said: Choosing to use the word “but” makes it seem as though you are dismissing my point because I didn’t point out that men agreed with the OP. Me pointing out that only men disagreed with the post does not mean that no men agreed. It simply wasn’t the most important thing to comment on. Your comment has shifted the focus I was trying to create. My apologies I just felt those who agree should get some credit. I didn't mean to dismiss your point. It just made it seem like we are all jerks and that's not true.
Ha**** Posted April 18 11 minutes ago, denver24673 said: My apologies I just felt those who agree should get some credit. I didn't mean to dismiss your point. It just made it seem like we are all jerks and that's not true. Of course not all are jerks and I’m especially appreciative to those men who also hold other men accountable 🙂
Deleted Member Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Halfpon said: So interesting that the only replies that have an issue with this post are from men. If only they’d shut up for once in their life and critically think about an opinion a woman has shared with them. Suppose there is no saving some people. Youre insinuating all women hold your perspective. Thats foolish. This whole thread is merely opinions of conventions. Everyone is wrong. Plenty of women are just as bold and direct. Its just not for you. And thats fine.
Ha**** Posted April 18 1 hour ago, 333stray333 said: Youre insinuating all women hold your perspective. Thats foolish. This whole thread is merely opinions of conventions. Everyone is wrong. Plenty of women are just as bold and direct. Its just not for you. And thats fine. I am not insinuating all women hold my perspective. I didn’t even share my perspective on the topic the OP raised, simply pointed out who wants to argue with someone’s opinion. Your reading comprehension skills are questionable at best.
Bo**** Posted April 18 1 hour ago, 333stray333 said: Youre insinuating all women hold your perspective. Thats foolish. This whole thread is merely opinions of conventions. Everyone is wrong. Plenty of women are just as bold and direct. Its just not for you. And thats fine. Mate, I agree with you in regards to the post at large that people have preferences, including the exact "behaviour" that the OP is complaining about. However, the thing is that her post and the language used throughout is personal, and unless I read it incorrectly or missed a comment, it doesn't seem like her post is aimed at anything except her own personal general experience with men PMing her unthoughtful messages (something which her profile states she doesn't want) not a general statement about interactions between men and women in general and what they should and shouldn't do. You probably could have gone about stating or possibly at least enquiring as to whom the post was directed at or in regards to in a more tactful way. Your general response (and some assumptions) makes it appear (not insinuating that it IS) that you have taken it personally or have some issue with the OP (personal comment regarding overly self-importance and sensitive personality). Please don't take this as an attack, just hopefully as some constructive criticism.
Ji**** Posted April 18 Beautiful perspective. Took me a year to learn. Find a mentor boys; read up; ask questions. Healthy BDSM is beautiful
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