wo**** Posted December 6 Misogyny rampant? Maybe from a feminist perspective, but day to day in regular life from an unbiased perspective? I strongly disagree. I’ve lived through a couple of decades with daytime talk shows, watched almost exclusively by women. The overarching theme- Women, and the men they put up with. That kind of propaganda promotes misandry. Millions of faithful viewers. Society telling women to be meek? That’s the 1950’s, 75 years ago. Society’s message for decades has been women are strong, independent, and they should get out there and work. Motherhood? That’s had shade cast on it for a few decades until recently. There has been a push for girls to strive to be engineers, etc for decades. If you look at the data, in the most egalitarian countries where everyone has the choice to go into any career without any social stigma- the differences in career paths between men and women have increased rather than become more similar. Women choose people oriented careers and men choose careers in stem, building things, etc. Very unexpected by the social scientists and at odds with most of their political views in my estimation. Men and women have some different innate characteristics, evidence of this can be seen right after birth. When shown pictures of human faces and objects the girls looked at the faces more often and the boys looked at the objects more often. IMO the struggle you mention has to do with innate characteristics where women differ from men, generally speaking. On an individual level individual men can be much more meek than the average woman and women can be much more dominant than the average man. But overall, the data is in, the science is there. Doesn’t make one any better than the other, men are just naturally more dominant. Looking at history it’s clear why. By the age of 20 a woman was nursing 3 *** ages 5 and under. One on her breast, one on her hip, and the third still requiring near constant supervision. Not conditions ideal for hunting for food and building things.
Co**** Posted December 6 4 hours ago, SassySwutch said: It really requires the FemDom to have her head on right and screen her subs well. I love the Domme in me and the power I have over my subs - being able to embrace that in a female body is the first step. It can be challenging with men because am I extremely fem and petite in my physique - it cannot be masked with costumes. But true subs don’t need might - they know the real power is not worn on the body, but in the eyes, in the mind, in my calm confidence and unrelenting consistency and confidence as I draw them gradually into unknown terrain, places they would never be able to go without me. They have to be bright and open enough to see beyond the boring archetypes and really willing to explore their vulnerability in submission. Otherwise it’s just a bore. Wholeheartedly agree with THIS: but I’ll also add my “2cents”.. Once a woman steps outside the fetishised, porn-shaped stereotype of what “dominance” is supposed to look like, the real power dynamic becomes about desire not a costume. That’s not to say there isn’t real pleasure in latex, heels, or any other aesthetic choices. Those can absolutely be part of someone’s personality and expression. They’re just not the foundation or definition of a woman’s confidence or dominance. Real femdom happens when: -The dynamic is communicated clearly -Her wants and boundaries actually matter (and in some dynamics come first) -The man listens instead of pushing his fantasy script -She isn’t treated like a prop in a male-driven fantasy Femdom Isn’t about a man forcing her to fit his fetish; it’s about honouring and respecting her authority and desires. And for the (predictably) ignorant comments: speaking from years of experience, no; a submissive man or a man who enjoys pegging is not a “sissy,” not a femboy, not weak, not secretly gay. He’s simply a man who enjoys giving up control or exploring deeper forms of pleasure. Masculinity and submission are not opposites and the sooner people understand that, the healthier these conversations will become.
Zis Posted December 6 Men love to be led and , because they are overwhelmed by their feelings...most of the times😅. I think society made them believe that they are only allowed to be *** in extremes, like bdsm dynamics... I met a lot of men on this app who begged to kneel for me, but really just needed to be held. The idea of woman are not having the space as a femdom because of misogyny is not accurate. There are just dumb men who cant let go of their patriarchy and are struggling with loneliness. As a woman I feel the power over my life and my subs. Its the men, who are struggling.
Co**** Posted December 6 Few gentlemen hit the nail on the head, were taught to be tough an dominate to survive , the right women can bring a man's soft side out , for me the women I am with I have no issue giving full control no words need said bc she knows without saying what I am okay with an I know from her vibe what she's okay with. When u know u know it won't take words, for rando hook ups or meets it's gunna be a lot harder bc there's no connection it's like a primal urge in the moment while for a man to bend to full submission it's gotta be on a connected level with most of us. May be different per male an upbringing , for me grandfather as a father figure an mom an aunts raised me so I see both sides.
Un**** Posted December 6 I'm particularly interested in this topic as a switch and soft dom. I really appreciate the points made about how a person was raised it's very important to how the identity is created. I feel it is more of a leadership position than one of power which seems to be confusing to many people, in my opinion.
Rh**** Posted December 6 Ive asked so many women what there fantasy is! There answer everytime. " I dont really have one"
gae Posted December 6 5 hours ago, PussyPleaser690 said: A true submissive man should want one thing only; to please their Domme That's the definition of a kink dispenser, not of a "twue" sub
wo**** Posted December 6 @Georgechalich look it's really hard for a man to go to his soft side because men learnt to hide emotions since their childhood…. While I agree with that let’s not forget what has been ingrained into men’s psyche for millennia, characteristics necessary for survival; of the man, his family, and his tribe. Nature is brutal and “oppressed” humans for millennia. Dying from starvation was common. Up until the very recent (historically speaking) Industrial Revolution half of all *** died before the age of ten. Humans fought for resources and territory just as some other mammals continue to do today. If attacked the men who survived were the ancestors of people alive today. If you wanted your family to live you needed to bury emotions deep. He with the least emotion survives. What happened to men long in emotion and short in toughness? They were brutally slaughtered. Their wives and *** taken as slaves by the victors. That’s worldwide reality for forever until very recently. If you got distracted by feeling emotion for your fellow tribesmen moaning, limbs chopped off, bleeding to death, horrific sights and sounds- YOU WERE NEXT. No weeping or sharing feelings when people are trying to kill you and take your family as slaves. You get emotional, you die. That’s evolutionary biology. So yeah, unless you were born into nobility, if you were a boy fortunate enough to be in the 50% who lived any and all men in your tribe needed you to be tough. And so didn’t all the women and girls, their lives depended upon it too. It’s offensive to me that men are criticized for being this way, it’s the only way the one’s doing the criticizing are alive today. The backbone of civilization was built and is maintained by strong men. Crybabies don’t build bridges and don’t climb utility poles in negative 20 % weather to get the electricity running for the rest of us.
wo**** Posted December 6 There was a very interesting post in here that I responded to (I think at least one other, not sure) as well as my response and I can not find any of it. Am I not looking in the right place? Does someone else have the ability to remove a post I made (reasonable and measured) in response to a post filled with personal attacks against me?
wo**** Posted December 6 I’m shocked, appalled, and dismayed. Can people just engage in wonton character destruction, attempt to rally others to gang up, and then when you respond calmly and with logic that exposes the devilish attack they can not only have their post vanish but also the post of the mature, polite person who pointed out the evil being thrown at them? They can disappear THAT too? No notice? No due process? No chance to do anything but be further wronged , further victimized? Is this a feminist bastion of attack men, then engage in a coverup when it fails? Doesn’t inspire trust and calls into question the ethics of anyone connected. Shame, shame.
li**** Posted December 6 41 minutes ago, woburn169344 said: I’m shocked, appalled, and dismayed. Can people just engage in wonton character destruction, attempt to rally others to gang up, and then when you respond calmly and with logic that exposes the devilish attack they can not only have their post vanish but also the post of the mature, polite person who pointed out the evil being thrown at them? They can disappear THAT too? No notice? No due process? No chance to do anything but be further wronged , further victimized? Is this a feminist bastion of attack men, then engage in a coverup when it fails? Doesn’t inspire trust and calls into question the ethics of anyone connected. Shame, shame. Dominants aren't supposed to be shocked, appalled or dismayed. I thought men shouldn't be emotional at all. Stay in the role you've been defending for the last three hours.
wo**** Posted December 6 Hyperbole darling. Thanks for noticing. BTW are you the famous Lilith? No, she is a feminists creation inserted into their remake of a bible. Is it your actual name or did you choose it because you wish to emulate her/her story? Mind you, if your name didn’t have “thedivine” as part of it I wouldn’t bother to ask.
li**** Posted December 6 5 minutes ago, woburn169344 said: Hyperbole darling. Thanks for noticing. BTW are you the famous Lilith? No, she is a feminists creation inserted into their remake of a bible. Is it your actual name or did you choose it because you wish to emulate her/her story? Mind you, if your name didn’t have “thedivine” as part of it I wouldn’t bother to ask. I know that you're desperate for any kind of attention but that's enough from me.
wo**** Posted December 6 p.s. I never said that men in current times, or even historically, shouldn’t be emotional at all. I pointed out the reality of its historical importance to explain how and why men are that way. I know feminists think highly of themselves, but do you think feminist propaganda can (or should even try to) undo a million years old biology?
wo**** Posted December 7 I don’t think two of this same thread is enough though. I humbly request you make several more Make sure each one is scrubbed to cover up the wild ass personal attacks post and my successful defense of it that embarrassed the evildoer though. You know the one feminist from the feminist playbook: 1. Initiate an attack on a man’s reputation with fervor and *** lust, 2.and when the man successfully defends himself and exposes the attacker which she finds embarrassing 3. Go to the ***hood and cry victim despite being a strong independent dominant woman because someone said “hey , look at this unwarranted attack” she made 4. Take steps to erase the evil attack by a feminist that was thwarted by a member of the falsely accused “evil” patriarchy. Maintain the narrative gals. Truth and justice don’t matter, only what us feminists want matters. Hold the line. Support all our feminist ***s, it doesn’t matter when they do evil shit because it’s never our wrongdoing. Blame men, shield women from accountability.
ho**** Posted December 7 i think many "submissive" men don't truly desire femdom- they desire specific fantasies that are loosely associated with it. they are aroused by the idea of a woman telling them what to do as long as it's exactly what they (the sub) wants. too many take the topping from the bottom approach because we are not seen as real dominants by them but rather kink dispensers. they think femdom is getting pegged, wearing a chastity cage, calling a woman mommy, and being feminised. i do recognise that a lot of it has to do with societal expectations and gender roles, it can be hard for men to relinquish control to women. i also believe that it is imperative for anyone interested in bdsm & kink to do their research and educate themselves on it outside of porn
Be**** Posted December 7 I don't think men thinking with their cock is misogyny; it's nature. If the man is taking a submissive role, then train him on what you want. Don't use society as a scapegoat, take control of your situation. Sub men don't want a Femdom that is wishy washy and blames others for their problems. They want a strong woman that will tell them what to do and how to please them, in whatever form that takes. Many see FemDom and male sub as black and white, when in reality it is as nuanced as male Dom and female sub relationships. This doesn't mean there aren't sub men that just want someone to sit on their face and jerk them off. They are just immature, or perhaps their best fit is a Pro Domme. You have the power. Use it wisely and don't worry about society, other Femdoms, or other subs. The only thing that matters is the relationship between you and the sub. Train him. Men love to please.
ey**** Posted December 7 there's a lot I think is valid and important to understand so - on one hand, for example - is what the idea of Femdom looks like to the Dominant... and the submissive. And, it is particularly sometimes the submissive who has unrealistic expectations. on another - one thing that has been said many times : more women would be into the idea of Femdom if it actually benefited them. And 'benefited' can mean a lot of things here, but, particularly - that they are not being given extra work, responsibility, labour, etc in order to satisfy a partners fantasies. Like, men will say things like they want a FLR, but not actually make the steps leading up to it without being told/micromanaged.
CaraVirt Posted December 7 I have removed various posts due to discrimination, personal attacks, and related responses. Please maintain an objective, respectful tone and be tolerant. Greetings, Carmen - FET Team
Sq**** Posted December 7 This is dripping with subtle misandry. I don't make anything about me in my dynamic unless it lines up with her wants and needs. No, it is infact not -all men- and that entire perspective could unironically push someone who would otherwise actually be tentative to not do so. It could be your vetting techniques. It could be your 'type' you're naturally drawn to. There's a lot of YOU factors to be considered reflecting on.
wo**** Posted December 7 Yesterday at 01:15 PM, liliththedivine said: Correct. I don't think femdom is much more difficult than regular vanilla sex. It's the same thing, the same problems that pornography culture has created. The same entitlement, the same disregard for women's wants and needs. I’m very curious to know how you think the new only fans culture and instagram culture will impact this. Do you think it is or will have a different impact than online pornography, and if so, how? It’s no longer a small number of women traveling to CA who are employed in the pornography industry. Now there are many more girls signing up to do only fans and working from the comfort of their bedrooms. While not pornography, the softer venues used historically where women displayed their bodies to a male audience like the bikini models in sport illustrated had a wide reach, but it was only one issue out of twelve. Most of the rest of the modeling industry catered to women. With the popularity of instagram and similar social media girls post modeling pictures themselves which can viewed worldwide. Some get contracts and earn ***, with a small number becoming famous with considerable income. They achieve this level very independently. Some use the platforms for escorting, even internationally. All of this is done without an agent and without the necessity of a modeling agency. How does/ will all of this affect Dom-sub relationships with women and men in your estimation? Vanilla relationships also if you care to comment.
Br**** Posted Tuesday at 01:49 PM That's a woman's issue to figure out dude. You just need to be confident and go out there and make an effort
Br**** Posted Tuesday at 01:49 PM If you can't effectively communicate,including your wants and needs, you shouldn't be having sex. You arnt mature enough nor can handle it
wo**** Posted Tuesday at 06:44 PM Hey BruceGoose I’m not sure whether or not your two short posts are a reply to me or not. If they are it should be noted that I quoted Liliththedevine’s post, because I was seeking her feedback in particular. I believe that Lilith is a woman. Of course everyone is welcome to reply. I know that I am very long winded and it can be annoying to read such posts word for word. I referenced pornography very early in the post because it having an impact on the topic was something she talked about. I appreciate the encouragement, and if your posts may be replies to someone else, I appreciate it anyway because encouragement is great. I agree that the ig, modeling, are essentially something that the women need to figure out. If you meant by ‘it’s a woman’s issue to figure out’ that my time is better spent elsewhere regarding dating and such I agree with that as well. If you meant ‘it’s women’s business, not yours I disagree. I don’t understand where the post about communicating is coming from though. If you were assuming I am a young guy struggling with talking to girls or something because I talked about online social media or that I was struggling with IRL communication it’s not where the post is coming from. I was making a long winded sort of academic inquiry with interest in hearing her thoughts on it. If the posts were replies to someone else I hope your posts help.
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