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Asking for sex, is there a double standard?


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In the instances I've experienced the straight world in this way I learned (women) are not supposed to ask, not supposed to say fuck yes if a man asks directly (this means he must be Bad), not supposed to discuss desires immediately on the freaking app designed for that purpose, and not supposed to share logistics of sex or have std discussions after having determined mutual sexual interest. They shouldn't be frank about not wanting a relationship, or matter-of-fact about being a slut or nonmonogamous. They should just be kind of blurry and vague about having sexual desire of their own because sex is something men do to women.

The difference, I think, is the person, the approach, and the interpreted level of threat. Most women aren't down for casual sex, though some are. Women are simply people who view and react to sexual prospects differently. You must understand the individual because there is no equation to perform to get the response you want. You must connect and excessive emotional intelligence to determine which individuals have stricter sexual preferences and which ones have looser. Also, you can't forget that 25% of women are beat by men, and you can't exactly tell which men are the beaters or not. So there is a threat level that women need to consider as well, especially if they don't know you very well, or they interpret you as not being able to deliver what they want

3 hours ago, skdndnd said:

In the instances I've experienced the straight world in this way I learned (women) are not supposed to ask, not supposed to say fuck yes if a man asks directly (this means he must be Bad), not supposed to discuss desires immediately on the freaking app designed for that purpose, and not supposed to share logistics of sex or have std discussions after having determined mutual sexual interest. They shouldn't be frank about not wanting a relationship, or matter-of-fact about being a slut or nonmonogamous. They should just be kind of blurry and vague about having sexual desire of their own because sex is something men do to women.

You said a powerful thing when you said, "sex is something men do to women"

It's not really double standards

Because it's different people with different boundaries/expectations

if these hypothetical friends who propositioned you for sex had been asked by you instead of vice versa they'd have likely said yes because they were up for sex with you.

 

I understand that people have different views on relationships and personal choices, but I don’t agree that casual sex is always okay. For me, sex carries emotional and psychological significance, and separating it completely from commitment can lead to unintended consequences like emotional confusion, attachment issues, or feeling unfulfilled. I also think it can sometimes reduce intimacy to something purely physical, which takes away from the deeper connection that many people ultimately want, especially us spicy folk. I believe that being more intentional about who you share that level of closeness with can lead to healthier and more meaningful relationships in the long run.

2 hours ago, yourlastprincess said:

I understand that people have different views on relationships and personal choices, but I don’t agree that casual sex is always okay. For me, sex carries emotional and psychological significance, and separating it completely from commitment can lead to unintended consequences like emotional confusion, attachment issues, or feeling unfulfilled. I also think it can sometimes reduce intimacy to something purely physical, which takes away from the deeper connection that many people ultimately want, especially us spicy folk. I believe that being more intentional about who you share that level of closeness with can lead to healthier and more meaningful relationships in the long run.

I agree with you entirely, we'll said; when we have sex, we are dousing ourselves (men and women) with an alchemical cocktail in our brains. When sex is reduced to just the physical alchemical changes, you actually miss the deeper sex. The TRUE sex. And to get the TRUE sex.. it takes time, trust, commitment, respect, dignity and choice

Even tho ppl are different, these days there are double standards. Take yout time and think about it honestly..and im sure you'll find something

Monday at 06:35 AM, astrafjord said:

You said a powerful thing when you said, "sex is something men do to women"

It's a misogynistic idea that many people, including women, hold as some kind of fundamental truth about the way the genders are.

11 hours ago, skdndnd said:

It's a misogynistic idea that many people, including women, hold as some kind of fundamental truth about the way the genders are.

Well, I think you actually hit on a real world application, because 98% of ***s are committed by men, and the vast majority of victims are girls and women. A fundamental truth? No, a cultural sickness in how we teach men to relate to sex, women, and power? Yes

3 hours ago, astrafjord said:

Well, I think you actually hit on a real world application, because 98% of ***s are committed by men, and the vast majority of victims are girls and women. A fundamental truth? No, a cultural sickness in how we teach men to relate to sex, women, and power? Yes

I feel like we are really not saying the same thing or making same points about capitalism and patriarchy.

I think women are just used to these behaviors from men, it’s unfortunate when you feel like you’ve made a good guy friend and it turns out he just wants to get in your pants. There are some women who are open to that idea but you’re better off maybe showing that you’re interested in hooking up as well and not just seeking a platonic relationship.

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March 25, boca-raton70455 said:

I think women are just used to these behaviors from men, it’s unfortunate when you feel like you’ve made a good guy friend and it turns out he just wants to get in your pants. There are some women who are open to that idea but you’re better off maybe showing that you’re interested in hooking up as well and not just seeking a platonic relationship.

There is not one guy on the entire planet. If an adult guy becomes friends with a girl, it is always with the hope/expectation that someday he will fuck her. It doesn't matter how certain you are that he is such a good guy with clean intentions, if it's a dude, he wants in.

14 hours ago, Zals said:

There is not one guy on the entire planet. If an adult guy becomes friends with a girl, it is always with the hope/expectation that someday he will fuck her. It doesn't matter how certain you are that he is such a good guy with clean intentions, if it's a dude, he wants in.

What utter nonsense. You shouldn’t suppose that all members of the male gender fall into line with your, obvious, spurious intentions when forming friendships with fellow human beings of a different gender group to your own.

I mean, I’m not sure if this was your intention or not but it’s literally only yourself that your post reflects badly upon

Monday at 09:58 PM, Zals said:

There is not one guy on the entire planet. If an adult guy becomes friends with a girl, it is always with the hope/expectation that someday he will fuck her. It doesn't matter how certain you are that he is such a good guy with clean intentions, if it's a dude, he wants in.

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