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Nothing is more interesting than going to a house party and seeing the couple you sit next to in Sunday school and she's on her knees getting it from her hubby and another guy at the same time... Then trying to play it off the next morning.
Wednesday at 06:25 PM, CasualPlay said:

Yes my father participated in that when I was young. The subservience of women takes precedence from the opening words of the creation story to the closing words of revelation. In fact, in the original texts Eve was the SECOND woman God created. His first attempt, Lilith, was too headstrong and willful to obey Adam. So God banished her and created Eve from Adams rib to ensure her subservience. Right out of the gate, women are intended to serve men. I'd say that just about says it all.šŸ˜‚

What book are you getting that mythology from?

5 hours ago, hunguncu8 said:

What book are you getting that mythology from?

The Torah

October 29, CasualPlay said:

Yes my father participated in that when I was young. The subservience of women takes precedence from the opening words of the creation story to the closing words of revelation. In fact, in the original texts Eve was the SECOND woman God created. His first attempt, Lilith, was too headstrong and willful to obey Adam. So God banished her and created Eve from Adams rib to ensure her subservience. Right out of the gate, women are intended to serve men. I'd say that just about says it all.šŸ˜‚

Where in the Tora is mentioned, what you wrote about Lilith?

2 hours ago, Handcuffs_1985 said:

Where in the Tora is mentioned, what you wrote about Lilith?

In the Genesis, creation story. You've gotta remember that the Torah IS the old testament BEFORE the Christian rewrites and redactions. Even that version was taken from the Babylonian creation myth, hence "And God said 'Let us create man in our image." Yahweh was one of 70 *** of the great god El, the most famous of his siblings being Ba'al. Also why the first commandment is "I am the Lord, YOUR God. You shall not have any other gods before ME." Not "I am the ONLY God." There are a lot of arguments over those "typos," but they were intentionally written that way for a reason. Ask a Jew, they'll tell you about Lilith.

2 hours ago, Handcuffs_1985 said:

Where in the Tora is mentioned, what you wrote about Lilith?

Just checked my story, Lilith was in the Talmud. She didn't make it into the Torah, but she's still well known among the Jewish faith.

44 minutes ago, CasualPlay said:

In the Genesis, creation story. You've gotta remember that the Torah IS the old testament BEFORE the Christian rewrites and redactions. Even that version was taken from the Babylonian creation myth, hence "And God said 'Let us create man in our image." Yahweh was one of 70 *** of the great god El, the most famous of his siblings being Ba'al. Also why the first commandment is "I am the Lord, YOUR God. You shall not have any other gods before ME." Not "I am the ONLY God." There are a lot of arguments over those "typos," but they were intentionally written that way for a reason. Ask a Jew, they'll tell you about Lilith.

The christians didn't rewrite the old testament.

13 hours ago, Handcuffs_1985 said:

The christians didn't rewrite the old testament.

šŸ˜„ there are many books completely left out. And more changed to fit the narrative desired for the Bible. I'm sorry if I offended you, but that's the known truth.

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Early gnostic believers where famous for having orgys it's not anti faith in my opinion to enjoy having fun with your human body or anyone else's it's a celebration of sexual nature
  • 3 weeks later...

I struggle with this too. It can be difficult because when people in church do hear kinky, they think passing partners around or orgies(adultery); not I like being tied up and made to beg for it. I also experience that because of this I recieve some distance from people in the kink community too. Especially being a male who identifies as submissive. I think people perceived the idea of a Christian male being submissive as suspicious. To help me not give up on this part of myself I try to remember St. Augustine of Hippo (perhaps the greatest theologian in Christianity [maybe even all religions]) wrote that everything in the Bible that can be said of a man can also be said of a woman in his book The Confessions, though I can't remember the exact place (it's a great read for anyone, especially Christians, and I highly recommend reading it). So I try to hold on to my submissive side as a piece of me that can honor God and demonstrate the equality and and self giving love that God asks of me.

That being said, I do try to follow three rules regarding sex and relationships, especially when seeking someone in the BDSM community: monogamy, no exploitation (conscientious and fun exploitation built in trust and care is not what I am referring to here), and no one significantly younger (half your age +9).

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