Everybody Should Report Scammer Profiles

[Deleted Member]

Here's why: even if you don't fall for them, scammer profiles severely detract from the quality of the site as they waste your time with fake conversation and energy/investment you'd probably rather put into conversing with a real, authentic user. It makes it significantly harder to find someone who could be genuinely interested in you when half the profiles on this site could be fake.

 

Here's some of the indicators:

Image (professional photography, airbrushed, model, etc.)

Let's face it most authentic profiles on here don't really know how to take a proper photograph - I'm talking about studio, professional photographer, proper lenses, lighting, equipment etc. I'm not saying there aren't kinksters that don't get serious about all of that, or that scammers never use amateur photography but if it looks like it was ripped off an instagram page, that's your first clue this profile was a scam.

 

Verification

Verification exists for a good reason on this site but don't make the mistake of assuming a verified profile is an authentic one. It is possible to pay insta models or go on fiver to get someone to provide you with the specific type of image this site requires to prove your profile is genuine (one that shows your face and palm). Don't get overly certain.

 

Demands 24/7 Obedience Straight Up

Let's face it, a real life domme is not interested in your grovelling servitude after sending her a "hey how are you" message. Most are going to want to know more about you, find out what you're interested in, see that you're not a scammer yourself, etc. On that note is aggressively demonstrating interest way to early. Ask yourself, is that a thing women really do. Do they do that in real life? Start sending you multiple semi-naked images of themselves in professional photographed scenes before they've built any kind of rapport?

Not a master player in real life? Sure, women are more cautious to show their interest in real life but seriously hate to break it to you, you're probably not a master player online either if you don't get that interest offline. Remember, you're probably talking to an out of shape middle aged man, not a busty Goddess wandering through Siberia.

 

Asks for money

Just don't send money to anyone online you don't know ever, unless you know their a professional that offers a service. They will you all kinds of sob stories, talk about how they are in a foreign country and can't get home, build months of rapport with you first (though not usually). Just don't fall for it, any of it. If the person won't prove they're real, they can't be trusted.

 

Paid subscription

I have looked at pay sites as well as this one and believe me, scammers are willing to pay for a profile upgrade. Don't think because they have premium or VIP they're any likelier to be authentic. In fact, if you yourself have a pay subscription, they're more likely to see you as someone willing to part with your money. Also, I have a sneaking suspicion (could be totally wrong here) that they wait for a scammer's paid membership to end before they give them the boot here - just looking at the pattern of scammers that got the boot from my mail list. So look out for that too.

 

Requests email aggressively

If they really, really, really won't talk with you on this site but insist email it's either because (a) they want private details (e.g. an authentic email with your full name), (b) they are scared they might get the boot from this site and not have any contacts to keep discussing with, (c) they can send you mail from a bunch of addresses now if you block one of them, it's too late. Never hand out anything that's not a disposable address (or even that you shouldn't really give them- reasons).

 

Requests private information

Many reasons for getting private information from you like who you are, where you grew up, what your favourite hobbies are, your mothers maiden name. 1) hackers can use it to run databases on your possible passwords - bank passwords, amazon passwords, etc. 2) They could potentially blackmail you. e.g. if you give them sensitive information - such as your fetishes you don't want the whole world to know about and also tell them who you really are that could be career ending for some people if you don't then do exactly what the scammer wants you to.

 

Profile looks like a generic cut/paste

Anyone seen those cold reader generators online? Read horroscopes perhaps? The material written in there is basically designed to make you feel like the author has specifically engaged you - just magically knows something about you. But realistically, you can write one of these and make near enough anyone feel engaged just by writing something that could be subjectively true about most people. Basically, scammers write these things about themselves virtually line for line to make themselves seem relatable. I'm bad at writing this and sure you could get something like this in an authentic profiles but it will be something like,

"I am a sensual Goddess, communicative and authentic. I love to see a slave's devotion and bow before me as his one true Mistress. Offer me pure devotion and servitude and you will reap the rewards. By the way I prefer to discuss by email, contact me @ blah blah blah with your full name and mother's maiden name"

 

Report, report, report

Don't just report saying "I think this is a scammer". Give reasons like ones mentioned in the list above - much more effective at getting a moderator's attention. Preferably use screenshots as evidence. Also have a reputation of being right - having that proper gut instinct about who's a scammer so moderators will take your report seriously. Don't just report that woman because she wouldn't respond to you or said something mean, or get revenge by forcing her to profile verify because she wouldn't meet up, etc. That makes your reports less credible (boy who cried wolf).

Remember, it's all about self-interest here: you report these people, you make the site free of scammers and don't end up as likely to waste your time on someone who's not an authentic domme. If you're proven right, you've protected a bruised ego and empty bank account. And if you're proven wrong? Well you've lost nothing, in fact you now can be more certain you've found someone generally interested in you (just keep in mind mods sometimes are wrong about which profiles are scammers or not). Win, win.

 

Waste their time, frustrate them

If reporting doesn't work, tug their chains a bit. Make them think you'll give them what they want (money). Or say you want to talk to them a bit longer (who knows maybe they aren't a scammer). You make their job way more difficult this way, and it's more likely for them to give up altogether which is exactly what you want. Play a game with them, tell them you have a fetish for sending people money. They ask you for your bank details say no, you meant the other way round - you want them to give you their bank details (not on the site itself though, I think it may technically be against the rules without the euro sign, even though you're just trolling them). Or if you don't want to do that (not sure about the legalities, actually) give them Mickey Mouse's bank details for a laugh.

 

Spread the message 

If you have friends on here, link them to this post. Get everyone reporting the scammers, wasting their time and frustrating them - it helps improve the site (doesn't have to be altruism but could purely be out of self-interest folks!). Doing all of this also helps you identify scammers yourself a lot easier and save you time up front.

Edited July 17, 2020 by Deleted Member
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[FETMOD-KF]

we definitely encourage people to report scammers - whilst there are behind-the-scenes changes which are helping pick up scammers; there's no perfect system.

we don't recommend continuing to engage with someone you have identified as a scammer - this also wastes your time and can give them information including knowing they are blown

the action taken against those who break site rules is not linked to whether they have paid or not.

if you have evidence towards pay-for-verification then please forward it to the support team.

[Deleted Member]

I should mention about not giving scammers the boot when they've paid, if there was ever any truth to that I wasn't criticising the site as I can imagine it could be difficult legally just to terminate someone's contract unless you're 100% certain their a scammer &  can prove it compared to kicking someone off the site when they haven't paid for premium/VIP. That was what I meant.

Edited July 17, 2020 by Deleted Member

[Deleted Member]

I have seen some profile which look like models, image stolen from internet. I wish the site check fir this fake picture too. But kinksters should do the search too! There are tool for image search and easy to use.
I never paid for service so I can’t say much how it works but if I was I would maybe try to find someone near my city and town. Less risk to be scammed. There are some website with pro in every cities in UK so why taking risks online with someone on the other side of the planet.
If they look too good to be true well it’s fake.

[Deleted Member]

@BlushingFlush well presented 👍

[Mastertony121]

Totally agree, this site is now ridiculous with the amount of scammers, lost all credibility and even if you do report the profiles, they are still active, the Admin don’t remove them or do anything about the influx of fake profiles, the current COVID 19 situation seems to be the en vogue excuse for why things are not be acted on.

[CandyCane447]

Always reverse image search if you can as well. Just throwing that out there.

[CH****]

Thank you!

[Mo****]

I use another site as well as this, and over there it is easy to use the Google reverse image search, or tineye.  Both these programs will search through billions of photos in a matter of seconds and list wherever they are from, such as instagram accounts, porn sites and so on.

I am lead to believe that these programs do miss some of the stuff coming out of the eastern block region, so if anyone knows of other programs, would you please let me know.

@BlushingFlush a great post mate.  

[sissy_petra_uk_slut]

Totally agree with every word. It really is having a detrimental effect, with the large number of scammers.

[Deleted Member]

Thank you for writing such a great post. I also came across some verified scammers recently. What they like to do is register an account one month or so before they start talking to people. Since they are verified, it helps convincing people that the person is just not used to the site/app and prefers other platforms. 

The thing to notice is that other platforms include sharing more information with them like mail or phone number or they could also maintain the same amount of anonymity as is maintained here so it is not a good idea to switch platforms. If someone wants to switch platforms, bring it to the notice of the moderators. 

[Deleted Member]

Not ashamed to say I've fallen for it before. But remember folks, reverse image search can be your friend

[Drewxs]

all dating sites are being targeted more than ever by all kinds of scammers. scamming kits are being sold now with all the work ready done. that’s why the wording in all these profiles is much the same, tbh there is not a lot of use in reporting as they pop up again as soon as the sites take them down. as the scamming profiles are pretty easy to spot i feel more humans should be employed to stop them being published in the first place instead of relying on algorithms

[Deleted Member]

13 hours ago, FabSeverus said:

I have seen some profile which look like models, image stolen from internet. I wish the site check fir this fake picture too. But kinksters should do the search too! There are tool for image search and easy to use.

Unfortunately, there isn't a reverse image search tool on this site. I believe it is to protect the anonymity of users here - you can't just right click an image and "reverse image search". It is still possible to save an image and use a different reverse search engine on google that lets you upload an image first. However, some models don't show up that way anyway, - e.g. if they are obscure. That's especially the case if somebody paid them for private pictures.

 

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There are some website with pro in every cities in UK so why taking risks online with someone on the other side of the planet.

Keep in mind, scammers do not always come from the town or city they say they do. It is possible to check someone's IP but I don't know how you do that.

Edited July 18, 2020 by Deleted Member

[Deleted Member]

Completely agree, I was approached by "Gauge" a few weeks ago, my fave American porn star and I couldn't believe my luck. I would have swam the Atlantic if it were true but sadly I had to reason that maybe it was a scammer 😞

[Deleted Member]

5 minutes ago, Donnykinkster said:

Completely agree, I was approached by "Gauge" a few weeks ago, my fave American porn star and I couldn't believe my luck. I would have swam the Atlantic if it were true but sadly I had to reason that maybe it was a scammer 😞

Hah yeah. I was talking to Lexi Sindel on another site for a while thinking, "this woman sure looks familiar", then I suddenly realised who the image was.

[Mo****]

On the other site that I am a member of (non-paying now because of the amount of scammers), I reported and blocked just under 2000 fakes/scammers. Most of those I named in my blog and shared for all members to see.  This was something that was frowned upon by management because it showed them up for not trying to eliminate the fakes, but I never got sanctioned for it.  That same site also had 3 security breeches as well.

For the management of Fetish, should you wish to try and eliminate these cretins, there is a way that can make it a lot harder for them, but I guess it all depends on how hard and fast you want to be against them.  You want to know more, then please feel free to contact me. Please not just a moderator but actual management.  It takes a little time but cost towards implementing will not be imposing.  I would be interested in finding out how many security breeches Fetish has had (that they will own up to).

I would like to see this place display a list of known scammers and perhaps even include those that are suspect so that real members can determine for themselves if they want contact or not.

[TemptressM]

Thanks for posting this, there has been so many stories about people getting scammed,  I get it,  I get that there are some who just want to be able to find someone I really do, but please you have to be careful,  the last post about being scammed in the UK when the Domme didn't meet him -  it took me less than 5 min to find out that she was in the states.  Look closely at pics,  see if there is anything in the back round that might tell you if they are being untruthful. 

Do your homework and usually if you think it's too good to be true,  it usually is. 

[Deleted Member]

25 minutes ago, TemptressM said:

Thanks for posting this, there has been so many stories about people getting scammed,  I get it,  I get that there are some who just want to be able to find someone I really do, but please you have to be careful,  the last post about being scammed in the UK when the Domme didn't meet him -  it took me less than 5 min to find out that she was in the states.  Look closely at pics,  see if there is anything in the back round that might tell you if they are being untruthful. 

Do your homework and usually if you think it's too good to be true,  it usually is. 

I don't think the American from the insta profile was the same person as the scammer that contacted him actually. Looks like that scammer ripped off the photos of the American and pretended to be her. That scammer could have been from Nigeria for all we know. Makes me feel uncomfortable, all of these guys having intimate or sexualised conversations with users they think are hot models but quite possibly just other guys.

Edited July 20, 2020 by Deleted Member

[ey****]

one thing you might find is that some of the pictures (and profile descriptions) do the rounds a little bit.   Often it's famous models or Pro-Dommes (some even directly trying to use their names.) but there was someone I once searched it back to an amateur model in France.

The profile descriptions are often a good indicators as well - if you search the description and get a whole bunch of profiles then it's probably a scam - or someone so lazy they're not worth your time.  I'm aware of someone who is real who placed a classified ad using one of those profiles just swapping out words where it was appropriate for her (but then, said person isn't someone I'd recommend anyway, but that's another story) 

One thing on the location is that often the run scam will be that they are either relocating (one even clever enough not to say my exact town - but one nearby as if it was a general area rather than a coincidence on the doorstep) or that they are/will be in the area as part of work - but yeah, that would have me sceptical. 

[Deleted Member]

@eyemblacksheep

To be honest, there have been images I am quite certain did not belong to the scammer and instances where the scammer was proven to be just that however their images were either paid for privately (e.g. on fiverr) or belonged to some model so obscure their images just did not show up on a reverse google image search. It's the reason I didn't really mention reverse image search as a tip in OP but is a valid tool nonetheless (personally, I think staff when they rate an image as NSFW or ASFW - they should reverse image search as well). I just think we can't check off a profile as legit simply because their image doesn't show up anywhere on google but instead to employ other measures to see if someone's a scammer.

[Deleted Member]

Great write-up. I'm rather fond of reverse GISing and reporting fake profiles. What the hell would you want with a dominant who needs your money anyways? (Unless you're into that.) Stay sharp, y'all.

[Lokisgodhi]

On 7/17/2020 at 7:54 PM, CandyCane447 said:

Always reverse image search if you can as well. Just throwing that out there.

Most definitely.  It's truly amazing how many people think they can get away with using stolen images of porn actors and fetish models.

You really think I'm not going to notice you're not the European fetish model whose picture you were using if we meet.

[ey****]

7 hours ago, Lokisgodhi said:

You really think I'm not going to notice you're not the European fetish model whose picture you were using if we meet.

that's simple - you don't meet.

those using stolen photos do it as a bait - there's no intention for them to meet you.

[equinox]

I'd pay to watch Kitboga get around to targeting these femdom scammers on sites like this. Too bad he's vanilla and content needs to be somewhat sfw.