What kind of man do you need?

[de****]

Yes DYSY26 I agree those men suck. And suck balls

[Ta****]

This is laughably 19th century. No. What the chauvinistic fuck.

[pu****]

Lmao the men did that on their own. They chose not to be wholesome and instead be perverted, pedocoded, violent,never use their frontal lobe, and believe they have a place of superiority over women.

The only kind of man anyone needs is one that's compliant in that his words and actions are congruent. A man that is actually wholesome. A man that is conscientious. A man that is resourcing. A man that takes care of his health. A man that takes action.

[Ga****]

No. Just fucking no. We don’t need men, period. And why the fuck would you teach, but not learn? We don’t need men to protect us. More often than not, men are what we’d need protecting from. So no, we don’t need men. The key word here is need. Ask us what man we want, if we want a man. Not what man we need. We stand on our own. We might want someone to stand with us, but we don’t need them. The key difference is just that: if we need someone we don’t get to choose them. Need implies dependency. And the past millennia have proven to us that we cannot put ourselves in the position of depending on a man and not being enough for ourselves. We can want a man, but needing a man is not fucking safe. And a man who needs to be needed is an insecure red flag. Deserve to be wanted. Aim to be more than a necessity. Aim to be the choice we feel safe and lucky about making every day.

[sa****]

I need a man to get stuff off the top shelf

[Ga****]

2 minutes ago, san-luis-obispo66044 said:

I need a man to get stuff off the top shelf

But that’s just the clerk in the shop- short term works 😂 - ps- sexy ass profile picture, kudos

[Laycette]

A creative, driven sadist into dollification and rubber that truly needs control and loves resyriction and shaping. Who would like a domme partner to both own me.

[wb****]

You make good point and some are off the mark, in my opinion. Hang with me please.

I think what we have seen isn’t so much a decline in masculinity as an unwillingness to accept toxic masculinity as acceptable.

I believe the man you describe as: steady, beside them, leans into responsibility, knowing the diff between bravado/strength & silence/ stoicism, knowing themself, stand with, integrity, teach, mentor, guide, listen, care, forge trust, protect, provide, other feel safer around, calm. This man is the form of masculine people want.

There is a huge difference between wanting and needing another person in our lives. Those who want to have *** will at some point need at least part of the other gender. As opposed to wanting to have someone in their life (as spouse or life partner) for an extended time.

The choice to be single can and does come from a myriad of different reasons. To boil it down to a few simple reasons is not only unfair, it’s is also wrong.

As a population we are vastly different from previous generations. Both men and women have different wants in life and different expectations.

I believe (just my opinion) what women want is probably pretty close to what men want. Someone who will respect them, treat them with kindness and understanding. Someone who will listen to what they are saying versus hearing what they think is being said. Someone who will stand next to them instead of in front or behind them. Someone who they can 100% with knowing the other is also going to give 100%.

[mr****]

Does anyone think the issue could be generational I’m gen X so biased. But I think the new generations and the way people date with these apps now and the way we socialize plays a part issue

[ut****]

I want 1 to go ce me feminizing surgeries and ***s me to sign over ownership

[Ga****]

“Stripped our world of the masculinity it needs.”

What a crazy thing to say lmao

[ar****]

The Manosphere got him

[si****]

2 hours ago, san-luis-obispo66044 said:

I need a man to get stuff off the top shelf

🤣😂😂

[sn****]

You're not wrong. My man grounds me and helps me regulate my emotions. I do enjoy doing things myself. So he lets me. And when he steps in it's because I bit off more than I can chew. Then tells me it's ok, and that the job was harder than it should've been. Lol. And that I broke it because I turned it too hard the wrong way.
He just called me to see how I was doing because I was a wreck when he left for work. It's because he does those things that I know everything will infact be ok.
And yes, that all translates to the bed as well.
I may not NEED a man, but I need him. And he's my man.

[ut****]

I want 1 or several to lead me 2 b a smoke show of a shemale then *** me n2 prostitution as a sex slave

[ma****]

This take is so laughable. It’s always the woman’s fault for a man’s downfall - loss of masculinity, the male “loneliness” epidemic, incels. Instead of looking within and doing the work, and ffs, seek therapy, it’s easier to place the blame on the one thing you cannot obtain.

[ey****]

6 hours ago, mrwindell said:

Does anyone think the issue could be generational I’m gen X so biased. But I think the new generations and the way people date with these apps now and the way we socialize plays a part issue

generational but not quite for the reasons stated

it wasn't that long ago that women did need men - and that in the sense of they couldn't have a bank account, place of their own, hell - even go to a bar - without one.  So the kinda societal structure favoured men and so for women it was often taking someone who'd do.

The kinda issue is that advice is passed down through generations, in both families and in older TV/films where this very much was a structure - hell, even not so old TV/films written by people of a prior generation. And a lot of men don't know how to deal with the fact that women no longer need a man.   Of course, for many reasons they may want one, or see benefit in one.  But the traditional kinda structure is gone.

On the flip, of course. Perhaps an important learning for men would be that we also don't need a partner. This is something a lot of men don't get over and feel they've failed if they don't have one.  They haven't.

Apps are still only a tiny proportion in where people find long term partners. 

[Ga****]

6 hours ago, mrwindell said:

Does anyone think the issue could be generational I’m gen X so biased. But I think the new generations and the way people date with these apps now and the way we socialize plays a part issue

I think the issue is that boys are raised to have expectations of manliness that clash with the reality they find growing up. They are told they have to be strong, and not to cry or show emotions. They are raised with boy toys, which for some reason always seem to have angry expressions, and who are never toys expected to teach empathy: fierce warriors, cars, robots. They are taught that they have to protect women. And then they grow up and find that women don’t need them to protect them, that we distrust them as protectors, that the hardness they were raised to show doesn’t serve them as well as the empathy they were taught to bottle up would. And this dichotomy between what they’re told they should be and what society allows them to be makes things difficult for them. Is why so many of us are here: the power dynamics in life contrast those we were all raised to expect, and we come here to explore them. Some of us to return a semblance of power to men, some men to take it back, others to give it up even further. It’s why there’s such a return to bigotry and conservatism. Our generations of men were raised to fill a role there’s no more room for in modern society. So of course some ill adjusted men will become toxic, abusive, homicidal. And some women will feel guilty about having “taken” men’s power and return it by giving up their own in life, too, and take their place beneath a man. That’s not our place (unless we so choose in sex). Our place is next to a man, if near him, or very fucking far away if he hasn’t figured out the era of the caveman is past, and he needs to evolve to be a functioning member of society.

[Fu****]

4 hours ago, snacksb4smacks said:

You're not wrong. My man grounds me and helps me regulate my emotions. I do enjoy doing things myself. So he lets me. And when he steps in it's because I bit off more than I can chew. Then tells me it's ok, and that the job was harder than it should've been. Lol. And that I broke it because I turned it too hard the wrong way.
He just called me to see how I was doing because I was a wreck when he left for work. It's because he does those things that I know everything will infact be ok.
And yes, that all translates to the bed as well.
I may not NEED a man, but I need him. And he's my man.

Well said!

[Fu****]

29 minutes ago, GabsGabsinG said:

I think the issue is that boys are raised to have expectations of manliness that clash with the reality they find growing up. They are told they have to be strong, and not to cry or show emotions. They are raised with boy toys, which for some reason always seem to have angry expressions, and who are never toys expected to teach empathy: fierce warriors, cars, robots. They are taught that they have to protect women. And then they grow up and find that women don’t need them to protect them, that we distrust them as protectors, that the hardness they were raised to show doesn’t serve them as well as the empathy they were taught to bottle up would. And this dichotomy between what they’re told they should be and what society allows them to be makes things difficult for them. Is why so many of us are here: the power dynamics in life contrast those we were all raised to expect, and we come here to explore them. Some of us to return a semblance of power to men, some men to take it back, others to give it up even further. It’s why there’s such a return to bigotry and conservatism. Our generations of men were raised to fill a role there’s no more room for in modern society. So of course some ill adjusted men will become toxic, abusive, homicidal. And some women will feel guilty about having “taken” men’s power and return it by giving up their own in life, too, and take their place beneath a man. That’s not our place (unless we so choose in sex). Our place is next to a man, if near him, or very fucking far away if he hasn’t figured out the era of the caveman is past, and he needs to evolve to be a functioning member of society.

I 100% agree with you! How I was raised and where, women always had more rights than men did, and I have no problem with that, because they’re our equals.

[Tr****]

Finally a description of masculinity that isn't about control but integrity and covenant as a woman who has navigated deep transitions I Don't need a hero I need a man who is steadfast enough to sit in the dark and strong enough to lead with his mind this is the only dynamic we're at the surrender

[Tr****]

Worth the surrender

[Tr****]

Precision. Real strength is found in responsibility and caring not bravado.

[Fu****]

19 minutes ago, TrACe_n-TeThEr said:

Finally a description of masculinity that isn't about control but integrity and covenant as a woman who has navigated deep transitions I Don't need a hero I need a man who is steadfast enough to sit in the dark and strong enough to lead with his mind this is the only dynamic we're at the surrender

Well you have be able to get in her head before getting in her body. So she can truly feel freed, safe, and be able to submit without worrying about anything she might do wrong or worry about baggage she’s been holding onto from the past

[AKA_Copper]

29 minutes ago, FunSin said:

I 100% agree with you! How I was raised and where, women always had more rights than men did, and I have no problem with that, because they’re our equals.

Where was this?