Kinky women in Australia

I’m flirty and curvy and love positive energy. I’m looking for someone to share the vibe sensually.

G'day, I am one of the community volunteer greeters here in the FET Universe, please hit me up if you need any help or guidance! You may have also received a welcome message from me, it's great to have you join the community. Also just to let you know, I am real person and not a bot, so please feel free to say Hi :relaxed: . Treasure Hunt If you have received Treasure Hunt icon from me, promise I am not hitting on you or trying to hook up, just purely sharing the fun around ……..hope you join in and play the game, as it’s a great way to learn about the website/app, earn points and meet fellow kinksters. . You can find all the details on how to play in the Born This Way Treasure Hunt Forum Thread in the Kink Academy forum in the OP initial post. You can also find all your clues for each day by scrolling through the thread (If you’re on the APP don’t forget to expand the comments alternatively you can use the quick link clue glossary at the top of the page on same forum thread on the Desktop or Mobile Desktop (V1users can also refer to this) which will take you to each days clues so far ps. web addy is fetish.com and if you cannot see the examples of what the icons look like in the forum, hit me up and I will send you a copy…… So, what are you waiting for, get hunting, share clues and pieces, there are prizes to be won!!!!! . How to share icons you find: To share an icon, you first need to find a member who does not have any. Open their profile and if they do not have one, it will give you the option "Give away icon now" tap and one of yours will be gifted to that member. Once you have gifted an icon away you will need to go back and recollect it from where you first found it. . If you're planning on gifting many away as the game goes on, its best to keep a list of where you collected them from, as the site gives away a random one from what you have collected. Having a list or keeping a grid map will make it easier for you to recollect. . Happy Hunting . Also while you’re here, just remember to be kind to one another and that everyone needs a little bit of love. xoxo . If you are looking for some educational content on BDSM, please hit me up and I can share some forum content links with you. . Outside the above....thank you for checking out my profile…..please strap yourself in, my profile is ridiculously long, so grab yourself some popcorn, some chockie, a drink and get comfy, it’s going to be a long while before you come up for air ;) Sense of humour is a must! . Just a little bit of housekeeping, being rude will not get you anywhere, so don't be a twit, mind your manners and please be kind. . Also, as much as I love a good perv, seeing your pecker as an opening message while I am chowing down on my Weetbix is not my idea of protein in my diet. So big hint here, please just Don’t !!!! . I have several photos locked in my private gallery, please note that I **do not** give access unless I have known you for a very long time. The more you hassle me about gaining access the more I am likely not to give access. Please also be kind enough to chat to me first before sending through any friend requests. . Don’t like BBW’s………no worries, you know where the door is . I am also **NOT** a Domme, nor do I wish to be one.....so trying to convince me otherwise is fruitless......please exit, left or right, whichever is the fastest......there are some lovely Domme’s out there but this Pixie ain’t one or will ever be one. . Thank you for the marriage proposals but I can honestly do without them.....so let’s cut to the chase and save time....the answer is a respectful "not interested".....plus I look dreadful in white ;) . Geographical content – I live in Australia just in case you didn’t know it’s at the bottom of the world……. yes, I own a car but no sorry it doesn’t float on water, so no I can’t drive to you. I also don't fancy myself as a shark biscuit, so nope can't swim to you either. . So about me hey? Well, I'm not quite the average Pixie....... . I am a large BBW and comfortable in my own skin. I have more health issues than the alphabet should seriously allow, but that's life and I tend to just get on with it. They do however affect my daily life, so if you would like to know more, you are welcome to ask me. . You will never know what you will get with me, I am a bit of a Pandora’s box………. quirky, eccentric and totally weird. I am also an Aussie so expect the unexpected. I am very strong minded, stubborn and also very determined, so please don't ever limit me as I will prove you wrong, time and time again. . I love to laugh, and my humour is out there and if you don’t get it that’s ok, I do and that’s all that matters but if I can make you laugh or smile even better. To make someone smile, makes me smile . I am an alpha sub, intelligent, mischievous, cheeky and quite frankly a bit of a smart arse at times. . Lingerie and nails are high up on my list of things I love and will try to be creative with both. I think my dear old Nan will be most happy to see I no longer bite my nails and be quite chuffed her bribe of $5 eventually paid off :relaxed: and incase you are wondering, yes they are my real nails and I do my own nail art in my photos. . Music is my happy place, as are sparkles ✨✨and rainbows :rainbow: I love hearing new tunes and discovering artists that I have not heard before, so please feel free to share any of your favourites. . I am also an auralist, I love certain sounds, so if you can read IKEA instructions like a Shakespearean masterpiece, you will most certainly have my ears ;) . I totally dislike drama, so if you have any please check it at the door. Life is precious, enjoy what you can instead of dwelling on what cannot be changed and is in the past. . I’m very much a Sapiosexual, intelligence turns me on, as does a good convo and a good mind f*ck…… seek out my mind and you have a window into my soul. Idle chat bores me to tears, so please don't be boring..... . I enjoy being busy otherwise I get bored very quickly and tend to have a heap of things on the go all at once but if you’re my friend and you're having a hard time and need a friendly ear, I will drop everything without hesitation. . I really, really love to write, particularly poetry. If you’re brave enough, you can take a trip down the rabbit hole and look inside the mad musings of my mind. To view via the mobile website Fetish.com, sign on using same id and password as the app……from there, tap photo right hand side of screen, tap Browse heading and in the search area type the title of the poem, then scroll down to discussions heading and you should see it, tap heading and it will take you straight to the poem. A list of the titles of my poems are below. . A Valentine’s prayer The seductress A private gallery by any other name Unfettered Looking in A Kinkmas Carol…We wish you a kinky Kinkmas A Kinkmas Carol…God rest ye merry, kinky ones A Kinkmas Carol…Oh, what fun (co-written with lil-monster) A Kinkmas Carol...Cum he told me A Kinkmas Carol…I want a Domly Dom for Kinkmas A Kinkmas Carol…Away in a Dungeon A Kinkmas Carol…Bouncing boobies Down the Rabbit hole I go The FET Family singalong Linger Charred Crave Everyone needs a good sub (co-written with Fathership) Ten commands poem (co-written with Fathership) Vexed Brushstrokes Ghost A few good sins Whore A ballad of fragility What am I ? Doll on a string We dance Petals Lair Dickarama Kiss my arse A Halloween tale Rainbows Those magnificent Doms Footprints Wicked Tea for two Equivocation Deck the Dungeons Wasted Life Paper chains Communique Affliction Deception Angel light Ode to the wannabes Adieu If only Comfort Intoxicate me Let’s play Ode to the scammers Bind me I’m yours Words For Sir . And if you are really keen, I also have a poem tucked away in my confessions which you can see via the website via your browser. . Astrology and Esoteric pursuits are my passion..... for those who understand, I have a Capricorn Ascendant with an Aquarian Sun, Gemini Moon and a Mars in Aries.....lol yep I know!!!! . Another passion and an even bigger one is Sex Toys…one is never enough…I really should own a Toy shop . I love to make new friends and can chat until the cows come home as long as the chat is reciprocated and of course not boring.....I do have the gift of the gab and can probably talk under water if I tried :grin: . As a volunteer greeter on the site I do get very busy, so please don't think I am ignoring you if I take some time to reply as it's far from the case. It may appear that I have read your message and not responded but please do not worry.....each message is retagged and replied to as my time permits. I sincerely appreciate your patience and if I do happen to miss a message by accident, please throw a snowball at me :relaxed: . That's it for now until I can think of something more amusing to say........ . P.S. Well done if you read to the end, for that you get a gold ✨and you have totally earnt a stiff drink for wading through all of that!!! P.P.S. I also have an Easter Egg hidden above, can you work out what the word is and what its used for? Hint: Traffic Light If you do, you get ✨✨✨✨✨ Most guesses are 60 can you beat the odds and guess the word? P.P.P.S. Please don't copy my photo's without asking permission, karma will come back to bite you if you do P.P.P.P.S If you know the words to The Smurfs Dippity Day I will love you forever :heart_eyes: **Desires and Fantasies** Spread the world with sparkles, make new like minded friends and of course win lotto!!!! Oh and I would totally love a pet dragon, a flying one even better :x and not forgetting a lifetime supply of chocolate :heart_eyes:

I'm a single dominant mistress. I have enjoyed this lifestyle ever since my college days. I enjoy this dominant lifestyle and I am willing and ready to pursue this further and having a sissy slave that would HAVE to obey and honor me would make me pleased. I will train you to exhibit all these characteristics with STRICT training and domination, Domination and *** is my aim and owning you as my own personal property, heart, body and soul. I have got a lot of fetish taste ranging from ass worship, role play, ***, ***, using my toys in you and on you and lots more. I want you to know that I practice what I preach in everyday life. I will enjoy bathing you in my *** and making you my pet toy. And at the end, you will always end up saying, "Mistress i am honored to have You." Men are meant to be under the woman, for you to qualify, you have to obey and honor my DOMINANCE.

welcome to my mysterious world of Domination, I am an absolutely stunning Mistress, beneath My elegant feminine exterior lurks a Sadistic devil who will push your limits beyond your most humble but interestingly amusing expectations...I love to keep you aroused with my exquisite body, kinky mind and sensual attitude, then push you over your limits with a smile on my face. Being artistic and sensual is My style.I know you need me for balance from your stressful daily life, and desire to have high-quality experiences rather than meaningless ***. Just relax ,your secret is safe here!

Been here for a little. Such fun people on here. honestly still trying things so down for anything still prefer dominant people though I don’t do online stuff

I am a genuine woman - soft, caring, generous, friendly, affectionate, loving, supportive and kind. Sometimes I think I am too soft and I need to develop stronger qualities in my character, though, my femininity and kind relation to life has never let me down. I got used to look for positive things in everything, even when there seems to be nothing good. I am intelligent and polite, I enjoy making my closest people happier and I am communicative and it seems I can find the common language with any person.

Open minded submissive after a D/S relationship, whether long term or FWB’s. My biggest turn on is a dirty talking Dom. I only respond to messages with face pics, sorry guys.

I am a masochistic brat who enjoys good, rough fun. I enjoy pushing my Dom’s buttons and testing my limits. While I consider myself a ‘good’ slave, my submission does not come easily and I need a Dom who is experienced in handling and playing with bratty slaves. Overall, I am just after a good fun time. Some of my most fave things to do are impact play, breathplay, bondage, public *** and ***. In trusted dynamics, I enjoy CNC and primal/outdoor play, *** play and knife play. You can also find me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Lilbratkaylah358?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator

This is probably a waste of time. However, here goes: Rubberdoll slave seeking dom couple owners Hello! I am an experienced slave and rubberdoll looking ideally for a similarly experienced and skilled dominant couple, preferably also into rubber and wishing to have a serious rubber discipline household. I run a kink business and have a life here so I am unable to shift overseas at short notice , however I have everything needed once others moved here. I would like to establish a home within the Brisbane / Gold Coast hinterland area, (that's AUSTRALIA) however I am happy to entertain possibilities for the time being. If you have advanced skills or at least truly wish to own a doll and have objectives in mind, are local or able to relocate here, then I'd love to hear from you! Please, newbies or swingers, this is not for you. I am not just seeking play, cyber, or NSA.Looking for kinky friends for fun, dates, skillshare, experimentation, events, and to build a household. And need also helpers for the latex clothing label!

I am a confident, intelligent Mistress who values respect, trust, and genuine connection. I enjoy guiding a devoted submissive who understands the importance of loyalty, communication, and serving with purpose. Strength, discipline, and mutual respect are qualities I admire, and I believe the best dynamics are built on honesty, chemistry, and clear boundaries.

Im a mistress/goddess looking for active tributes from pay pigs/ sugar daddy's to drain there balls and wallets I'm into *** and insulting.

I’m a busy independent solo mum who likes some kinky fun in my free time. Looking for NSA, FWB, confident experienced Dom that can make me forget about all my worldly problems and transport me to a place of pleasure, ***, sensation and ecstay. I love a good dark sense of humor and appreciate intellectual connection. Unapologetic pothead (medical 😉) I’m fairly time poor, and time blind when it comes to messaging and chat etc. happy to plan my weekends off in advance if you’re localish and we click.

A beautiful soul is beautiful in appearance. I love everything pure, kind, and sincere. I love helping others and love ***s and people with a sense of humor. My heart is free, and I really want to create a wonderful couple with a good man.

I have an active lifestyle. At the same time I'm not anxious, not in a hurry, am a patient type and hope to find him out here..

I’m a freshly 18 year old young woman, and I recently realised how unsatisfied I am with the idea of vanilla sex. Looking for a man (or men) that will teach me how to be the perfect sub for anyone as I am pretty inexperienced. Or you could call me: “innocent”. Need someone with patience and good humour, willing to give you my best sex doll performance in return!!

My interests are pretty chill. Tickling, dacryphilia, If you're into being dommed in that kind of way , hmu :3

Milf, 40s, Black. Size 10-12, fit, athletic/curvy build, healthy C cup with nipples that need attention. Sydney metro. Discreet, can’t host. Fair warning: I have a sharp tongue and not much patience. If you can’t handle direct, we won’t get far. **What I’m Looking For** Casual or semi-regular ANR/ABF sessions with the right person (20-45). I’m currently dry but would love to relactate with someone patient and consistent. **To be clear:** this is about nursing, not more. It’s also not a domme/sub dynamic, nor mummy/son roleplay. Just intimate, adult nursing with the right connection. If you’re looking for something else, keep scrolling. That said, a little edging while sucking never hurt anyone. **What I’m Not Looking For** Hook ups or booty calls Flakes, one-word messages, or anyone who can’t follow through, so if you’re unsure, don’t bother. Discretion is non-negotiable. **If This Speaks to You** Message me with what interests you and your availability. Skip the “hey.”

Hi there loves 💖 I am Becky I am pansexual, a lover of nature and I love to model and take photography I am into a range of different things I love guys and girls equally I am a princess and identify as a few different things Looking for a Daddy that treats me like i deserve to be spoiled like the princess i am! I'm 34 years young, I'm curvy I am into fetishes, and also identify as a middle (ddlg) around 12ish, which can be a kink but also just who I am, so it's something that is 24/7 for me. I need a ddy who can be compassionate, empathetic, sensitive, understanding, someone who can listen and help me through this awful world, someone who can protect me. NOT CASUAL, NOT POLY, MONOGAMOUS ONLY given how I am i can only ever live this 24/7 with someone i can trust and i fall too easily for people for me to ever do casual and i get far too jealous to ever be poly I also have medical conditions so they include: complex ptsd, anxiety disorder, epilepsy, fibromyalgia, two rods in my spine so fused and leaving me in chronic *** with limited flexibility etc. I have no colon so have short bowel syndrome i also have autism == Results from bdsmtest.org: == 98% Little 89% Ageplayer 87% Brat 87% Submissive 72% Vanilla 63% Rope bunny 63% Exhibitionist 50% Master/Mistress 49% Masochist 45% Primal (Prey) 44% Switch 17% Experimentalist 14% Dominant 9% Sadist 9% Slave 7% Owner 5% Rigger 4% Voyeur 3% Pet 2% Primal (Hunter) 0% Daddy/Mommy 0% Brat tamer 0% Degrader 0% Degradee 0% Non-monogamist

I am an extroverted, authentic woman eager to continue growing in all aspects of my life. With a passion for health, I enjoy exploring my creative side. I love traveling, discovering new places, going out at night, visiting restaurants, and connecting with nature, especially in botanical parks. I am passionate about self-improvement, reading inspiring books, and surrounding myself with people who give me good energy. I am clear that I want to start a family in the future and build a meaningful life, where I can enjoy the journey while working toward my goals. I am also open to new ways of generating income that allow me freedom, while always staying true to who I am.

Just the girl next door acting out, that needs to be pulled into line by her daddy. He needs to show her who’s boss and punish her, she must show daddy that she can be a good girl for him.

YOU MAKE ME SICK 😒🤏🏼 BBW B!tch 💋 Let me hurt humiliate and degrade you while I get all wet and juicy enjoying watching you squirm and squeal beneath me 💦 Subs, slaves, Masochists where are you at 😈 🔥🍆👠🍒🔗🔐$ Send me through any request you may have for content I also sell socks and underwear if you enjoy being a dirty little pervert 😈

Hiya, I’m a young female looking for some fun. I am a switch, looking to play with both men and women. I am currently in an open relationship with my long term partner. I would like to find some respectful people who are open to playing occasionally when we can find the time and energy.

Elitist and elusive. The Goddess of your dreams. I am not an expense. I am a luxury. My attention is reserved for generous submissives who understand that access to a woman of my calibre is earned through tribute, consistency and devotion. I specialise exclusively in financial domination. Enter my world prepared to invest, obey and prove that you can afford the privilege of serving me. I prefer online BDSM and ***, and do not offer in person sessions. DO NOT SEND ME PHOTOS WITHOUT MY EXPRESS CONSENT.

welcome to my mysterious world of Domination, I am an absolutely stunning Mistress, beneath My elegant feminine exterior lurks a Sadistic devil who will push your limits beyond your most humble but interestingly amusing expectations...I love to keep you aroused with my exquisite body, kinky mind and sensual attitude, then push you over your limits with a smile on my face. Being artistic and sensual is My style.I know you need me for balance from your stressful daily life, and desire to have high-quality experiences rather than meaningless ***. Just relax ,your secret is safe here!

I am a confident, intelligent Mistress who values respect, trust, and genuine connection. I enjoy guiding a devoted submissive who understands the importance of loyalty, communication, and serving with purpose. Strength, discipline, and mutual respect are qualities I admire, and I believe the best dynamics are built on honesty, chemistry, and clear boundaries.

I am a genuine woman - soft, caring, generous, friendly, affectionate, loving, supportive and kind. Sometimes I think I am too soft and I need to develop stronger qualities in my character, though, my femininity and kind relation to life has never let me down. I got used to look for positive things in everything, even when there seems to be nothing good. I am intelligent and polite, I enjoy making my closest people happier and I am communicative and it seems I can find the common language with any person.

I'm a single dominant mistress. I have enjoyed this lifestyle ever since my college days. I enjoy this dominant lifestyle and I am willing and ready to pursue this further and having a sissy slave that would HAVE to obey and honor me would make me pleased. I will train you to exhibit all these characteristics with STRICT training and domination, Domination and *** is my aim and owning you as my own personal property, heart, body and soul. I have got a lot of fetish taste ranging from ass worship, role play, ***, ***, using my toys in you and on you and lots more. I want you to know that I practice what I preach in everyday life. I will enjoy bathing you in my *** and making you my pet toy. And at the end, you will always end up saying, "Mistress i am honored to have You." Men are meant to be under the woman, for you to qualify, you have to obey and honor my DOMINANCE.

A beautiful soul is beautiful in appearance. I love everything pure, kind, and sincere. I love helping others and love ***s and people with a sense of humor. My heart is free, and I really want to create a wonderful couple with a good man.

Im a mistress/goddess looking for active tributes from pay pigs/ sugar daddy's to drain there balls and wallets I'm into *** and insulting.

Just the girl next door acting out, that needs to be pulled into line by her daddy. He needs to show her who’s boss and punish her, she must show daddy that she can be a good girl for him.

I have an active lifestyle. At the same time I'm not anxious, not in a hurry, am a patient type and hope to find him out here..

I love seeing NSFW art and reading smut fanfic If I say no to something please don't push I hate being pushed when I'm uncomfortable

Submissive with a brat streak — I don’t behave unless you give me a reason to. I like structure, control, and someone who can keep me exactly where I belong. I’ll test you, push back, and be a little trouble… just to see if you can handle it properly. If you can’t, I lose interest fast. I enjoy a firm hand and a bit of sting — the kind that leaves a reminder. If “5 finger necklace” means something to you, we’ll get along just fine. What I’m looking for is calm, confident dominance — not loud, not performative. Someone who doesn’t need to announce control because it’s obvious in the way they carry themselves. Respect, communication, and aftercare matter. If you know what you’re doing, I’m all yours. If you don’t, I’ll know. Vibe: Bratty. Playful. Likes to be put in her place — properly

For me, dominance is about energy, presence, and control of the mind before the body. I enjoy guiding a submissive into vulnerability and watching them thrive under firm direction. I’m seeking someone open to exploration, growth, and new experiences within a safe and consensual framework. Chemistry matters. Intelligence matters. Respect matters. If you crave surrender and understand that true submission begins in the mind, introduce yourself properly.

I’m someone who has grown into a woman who values authenticity,curiosity,and meaningful connections.Life has taught me to embrace both the challenges and joys with grace,and I try to approach every day with a sense of gratitude and humor.I’ve learned the importance of being confident in who I am while remaining open to learning from others.I value honesty,kindness,and a good sense of humor,and I love being around people who are equally passionate about life.

**Deep in my curious era … and honestly, loving it 🔥** I’m exploring what excites me and what challenges me — stepping into sensuality and kink with intention. Feeling my way into what fits, what ignites me … and what feels _alive_. I’m drawn to a blend of softness and structure … chemistry, presence, and that unspoken pull. Tenderness with tension. Gentleness with edge. Control with care. Presence with intention. There’s something deeply appealing about someone who can hold that balance — exploring together while staying playful, present, and connected. Free-spirited, gentle, warm, feminine … and sexy as hell. Open-minded, curious, and cheeky — with a strong streak, a playful edge, and a spark that shows up when the energy is right and I feel safe. I’m here for connection, chemistry, and experiences that feel good on every level. Bring emotional intelligence, passion, respect, heat, and grounded energy … bonus points if you can make me laugh and bring a bit of mischief ❤️‍🔥

I am a kinky submissive with a high sex drive, ready to explore with new faces after a sex drought of a relationship for 2 years. I love having a trusted dominant (and a little sadistic) partner who knows what they're doing and what they want. Nothing turns me on like a sexual partner who plans and takes control. And just for something a little extra, CNC really gets me going...

I’m a busy independent solo mum who likes some kinky fun in my free time. Looking for NSA, FWB, confident experienced Dom that can make me forget about all my worldly problems and transport me to a place of pleasure, ***, sensation and ecstay. I love a good dark sense of humor and appreciate intellectual connection. Unapologetic pothead (medical 😉) I’m fairly time poor, and time blind when it comes to messaging and chat etc. happy to plan my weekends off in advance if you’re localish and we click.

I lead with purpose and expect the same in return. My approach is deliberate—psychological depth, structured discipline, and the art of shaping a submissive’s growth through guidance and authority. I value authenticity, emotional intelligence, and a genuine commitment to service. Submission is not a role to play; it’s a responsibility to embrace. If you seek a dynamic with a strong, ambitious woman who demands respect and intention, approach me with clarity and self-awareness. I have no patience for games, half-hearted efforts, or those who mistake submission for weakness.

From the Shores of South Africa to the Sunshine of Australia At 38 years old, this Mermaid is still discovering the depths of her submission. I am a "Little" with a big heart and a long list of kinks—ranging from DDlg and TPE to chemical play and body writing. 🎨✨ 📋 THE OWNER’S MANUAL 📋 Model: The Ariel 2.0 Condition: Slightly used, highly spirited, and very submissive (under the right management). ⛓ 🌟 TOUCH MY MIND & MY BODY WILL FOLLOW 🌟 I am a work in progress—a canvas waiting for a Dom’s brush. Being submissive has never been about being powerless; it’s about the conscious decision to gift power to the person I deem worthy. 👑 My Happy Places: The Museum, Zoos, and wherever you tell me to be. 🏛🦁

Hi 👋🏼 I'm new in Brisbane, just moved up from Sydney, travelled most parts of Australia and looking for friends into rope, shibari, soft BDSM. Would like some female friends or trans/female before meeting men. Not into casual sex I can't use photos because of work privacy.

I am selective, discreet, and value authenticity. My dominance is psychological first I enjoy control, structure, discipline, and shaping a submissive into their highest potential through guidance and authority. I am seeking a dedicated personal submissive who understands that submission is a privilege, not a performance. Someone emotionally intelligent, consistent, respectful, and genuinely committed to serving a strong woman with ambition and depth. I am not here for endless chatting, time wasters, or fantasy collectors. If you approach me, do so with intention and self-awareness.

just here to have fun and talk to people ⚠️please don't text me right off the bat telling me what you'll do to me, i'll just block you because it makes me uncomfortable.⚠️ i am still very open to talking though, don't be scared

My interests are pretty chill. Tickling, dacryphilia, If you're into being dommed in that kind of way , hmu :3

non - monogamous, little just seeing what’s around I adore horror movies, gaming, random night adventures, driving listening to my favourite music hedalexkawoods on *** you’ll find out so much about me here 😳☺️😏

I’m a freshly 18 year old young woman, and I recently realised how unsatisfied I am with the idea of vanilla sex. Looking for a man (or men) that will teach me how to be the perfect sub for anyone as I am pretty inexperienced. Or you could call me: “innocent”. Need someone with patience and good humour, willing to give you my best sex doll performance in return!!