Blackmail

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14 hours ago, eyemblacksheep said:

I appreciate that this is a bit daunting - but - she is bluffing

there is nowhere she can legally post or upload it because she doesn't have a signed release form and she probably knows it.

Just because stuff isn't legal doesn't mean people can't do it. Never had anything like that really checked for any upload

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Best advice I can give is to be honest and true about yourself.
Sure it might not be the best recording but it happened. To acknowledge that imo only brings the person threatening or publishing in a bad spot.
Also whoever finds it still is in the position that they must have searched for something that would have brought you up ;)

[ey****]

6 minutes ago, sir_xvx said:

Just because stuff isn't legal doesn't mean people can't do it. Never had anything like that really checked for any upload

But upload to where?

 

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8 minutes ago, eyemblacksheep said:

But upload to where?

 

Even this side. Only a few ask for a document showing the model consented and even fewer would really consider double checking it.
Like driving without a licence isn't legal but with all contracts I've never been asked for my license when I drove home as the sober person.
What's legal is rarely what's happening in reality

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*contacts

[ey****]

2 minutes ago, sir_xvx said:

Even this side. Only a few ask for a document showing the model consented and even fewer would really consider double checking it.
Like driving without a licence isn't legal but with all contracts I've never been asked for my license when I drove home as the sober person.
What's legal is rarely what's happening in reality

Reet - so   and this is where things further as it being a likely bluff

absolutely, a lot of sites do not check video/picture rights upon upload.  Some do have background AI checks or spot checks.

If, for the sake of argument, the person doing the blackmail uploaded it to here - then the OP would see it, be able to report it - and there is a criminal case (if blackmail is difficult to prove, some of the revenge porn laws are less so) and actually any friends/family/employers - if they're here then seeing someone they know naked shouldn't be a massive surprise.

So this is a question in general, the person doing the blackmail - where will they upload it to?  Facebook, Instagram, etc. won't tolerate adult content and do have background AI.  Twitter does tolerate adult but is complying with takedowns fairly quickly at the minute (a lot of false positives) sites like xHamster, Pornhub, etc. do need forms attached.  

Of course, Fetlife checks nowt - but - again - same issue, how likely is the people it's being threatened to be shown to likely to see it? Particularly before any form of takedown can be issued?

[Setrion]

I, in this situation, would choose chaos. I'd tell them something like, "Oh, well, one already posted this video to my socials, so... I mean I *guess* you could try to steal some of my likes with it?"

Total bluff, but I also legitimately am 'out' with my friends and don't *** anyone seeing stuff.

That said, there's some neat stuff in here for someone who is afraid. A lot of the other "bring it on" messages are very confrontational, and can be perceived as false bravado (which they are). This message instead conveys extreme apathy, which would encourage someone to believe this blackmail is a waste of their time.

[Hal727]

3 hours ago, Setrion said:

I, in this situation, would choose chaos. I'd tell them something like, "Oh, well, one already posted this video to my socials, so... I mean I *guess* you could try to steal some of my likes with it?"

Total bluff, but I also legitimately am 'out' with my friends and don't *** anyone seeing stuff.

That said, there's some neat stuff in here for someone who is afraid. A lot of the other "bring it on" messages are very confrontational, and can be perceived as false bravado (which they are). This message instead conveys extreme apathy, which would encourage someone to believe this blackmail is a waste of their time.

I certainly agree with the first half of your post. I can see why your suggestion of apathy regarding the blackmail attempts would be a workable strategy.
However, I think your comment regarding the “bring it on “ strategy being false bravado overlooks a certain, perhaps small, percentage of us. I can only speak for myself of course. But, I am older than most on here, retired, widowed, and my kids are grown and have concerns of their own. So, I truly don’t care whether some AH posts something or not. I’m long past the days when I had to worry about what others think of me. Not only that, but I doubt seriously that anyone would see what a blackmailer was able to post, and anyone who did see it and thought it was me would probably laugh. And finally, having gone through three attempts to blackmail me this way, I have found that I rather enjoy the confrontation.
The perpetrators have ended up being very angry once they realized that I was yanking their chain and letting them know that I thought they were stupid lazy fools. These people prey on others, and deserve to be belittled and ridiculed whenever a potential target feels comfortable enough to do it.
I probably wouldn’t have done it during the years when I had mouths to feed and a career to protect. So now I enjoy doing it for the people who would like to but can’t. Nothing false about it!

[Setrion]

21 hours ago, Hal727 said:

However, I think your comment regarding the “bring it on “ strategy being false bravado overlooks a certain, perhaps small, percentage of us. 

This was partially a specific reference to OP's situation where they are clearly not in the position to not care, and partially a subjective view of the situation from the position of the blackmailer instead of a position of objective fact. Surely many, including me, don't care about being outed, but that wasn't a useful perspective to advise OP from. 

[Hal727]

43 minutes ago, Setrion said:

This was partially a specific reference to OP's situation where they are clearly not in the position to not care, and partially a subjective view of the situation from the position of the blackmailer instead of a position of objective fact. Surely many, including me, don't care about being outed, but that wasn't a useful perspective to advise OP from. 

I think you’re missing the point that the blackmailers have no real power, and either method will leave them with no where to go. For that matter, just blocking them and forgetting about it will probably work just fine as well. But I’m all for whatever makes the target most comfortable.