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Well it's a common perspective that the main reason people are overweight is the lack of self control on top of laziness. It shows the characteristics of a person and puts out the perspective that if the person is too lazy to take care of themselves then what sort of effort will they put towards a relationship. Also obesity causes long term health problems, so most already has their own problems and will avoid taking on another person's self inflicted problems. | With that said, if your weight and shape bothers you so much. Then do something about it. Stop trying to *** others to cheer you up and just make the changes you need to. Stop shoveling food into your mouth in unconsitrated amounts and become more active. If you balance what you take in with what you burn off, you don't need to stop eating what you love and you'll get into ideal shape.
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A lot of folk try to over simplify that someone who is larger is simply a product of a poor balance between eating and exercise : but nothing is entirely that simple.

Genetics is a massive factor, as is metabolism.

But also a lot of things like disability, medical conditions, so on can also drive factors.  This is before we even get into the role that poverty can have on someone's weight.

There has been so much that has been debunked over the years.  People who are deemed larger are often stigmatised (or fetishised for it) and judged for it.    There are then people who give awful advice ("eat less") which can lead to eating disorders.

Of course, I would encourage people to try to make healthier choices, but, no one is a saint really - it's funny how when you see someone who tunnels away junk food every day, or drinks excessively, but is deemed 'slim' isn't judged for their health choices the same way someone who appears larger is.

And don't even start me on what a scam the diet industry is.

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Yeah, eat less can be unhelpful for ppl who struggle with food addiction. Kinda like telling an alcoholic to stop at just one drink.
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10 minutes ago, eyemblacksheep said:

A lot of folk try to over simplify that someone who is larger is simply a product of a poor balance between eating and exercise : but nothing is entirely that simple.

Genetics is a massive factor, as is metabolism.

But also a lot of things like disability, medical conditions, so on can also drive factors.  This is before we even get into the role that poverty can have on someone's weight.

There has been so much that has been debunked over the years.  People who are deemed larger are often stigmatised (or fetishised for it) and judged for it.    There are then people who give awful advice ("eat less") which can lead to eating disorders.

Of course, I would encourage people to try to make healthier choices, but, no one is a saint really - it's funny how when you see someone who tunnels away junk food every day, or drinks excessively, but is deemed 'slim' isn't judged for their health choices the same way someone who appears larger is.

And don't even start me on what a scam the diet industry is.

If only there was a SUPERLIKE button!!!!!!!!!

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It's not genetics, genetics only factor in bone mass, not fat cellular count. Being big bone doesn't cause rolls or buldges. It just gives you a much larger frame. What causes fat cellular increase is the consumption of high fat foods which is stored. To decrease ones fat cellular count one needs to burn off the stored calories.
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25 minutes ago, Irish_Bunny said:

It's not genetics, genetics only factor in bone mass, not fat cellular count. Being big bone doesn't cause rolls or buldges. It just gives you a much larger frame. What causes fat cellular increase is the consumption of high fat foods which is stored. To decrease ones fat cellular count one needs to burn off the stored calories.

nowhere did I mention big bones

I was talking about genetics and metabolism.  We can also go into the role that stress has on weight retention.  

At it's simplest, yes, if you burn off more calories than you consume you will lose weight - but this isn't really as straight forward as that because the rate you burn off calories can be linked to things like metabolism, and a lot of things can affect metabolism including genetics, stress, medicine, illness, infection

Also in the case of those on a lower income, what foods are available for their budget.  What means of exercise are available for their budget. The right kind of nutritional advice which is often true on an individual basis considering an awful lot of factors.

 

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I think what is important is that if your first thought when seeing or speaking to someone larger is "they are greedy and/or lazy" then you have pre-judged them - there is so much else at play here which can lead into why someone might be considered overweight.  Like a lot of things it's important to kinda be aware of your own bias.

Of course this doesn't mean it's not OK to have a preference or anything like that, but accepting that is what it is.

But making assumptions on someone's lifestyle is rather short sighted.  Especially as yourself or a prospective partner is only really one medical complication away from piling on weight.

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21 minutes ago, eyemblacksheep said:

nowhere did I mention big bones

I was talking about genetics and metabolism.  We can also go into the role that stress has on weight retention.  

At it's simplest, yes, if you burn off more calories than you consume you will lose weight - but this isn't really as straight forward as that because the rate you burn off calories can be linked to things like metabolism, and a lot of things can affect metabolism including genetics, stress, medicine, illness, infection

Also in the case of those on a lower income, what foods are available for their budget.  What means of exercise are available for their budget. The right kind of nutritional advice which is often true on an individual basis considering an awful lot of factors.

 

The only things genetics would apply towards is bone density. Also ones metabolism only factors in the burn rate of exceeded calories. One still needs to be active and burn calories for the metabolism to react and continue to burn when the body goes into a state of rest. All ones genetics would apply when it comes to how much essess calories that are burnt after an event. So say one exercises and burns 1000kcal and their metabolism is in slow process they might burn an additional 200kcal at rest. So at days end they burnt 1.2k kcal, almost a half of pound of fat cellular compound. That's genetics, you aren't genetically fat, you don't just produce fat out of nowhere, it's not magic.

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28 minutes ago, eyemblacksheep said:

nowhere did I mention big bones

I was talking about genetics and metabolism.  We can also go into the role that stress has on weight retention.  

At it's simplest, yes, if you burn off more calories than you consume you will lose weight - but this isn't really as straight forward as that because the rate you burn off calories can be linked to things like metabolism, and a lot of things can affect metabolism including genetics, stress, medicine, illness, infection

Also in the case of those on a lower income, what foods are available for their budget.  What means of exercise are available for their budget. The right kind of nutritional advice which is often true on an individual basis considering an awful lot of factors.

 

It's also the reason the world health network as a set daily calorie recommendation of 2000 cal diet. For the average daily activity, factoring in the average metabolism and the fact the average person burns 1400 kcal while sleeping for 6 hours. They assume one can consume 2000 calories and not gain weight and with some lose it when ones actives are increased. Ones genetics barely factor in, what factors in is ones consumption control and set activity to increase ones metabolical reaction.

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21 minutes ago, eyemblacksheep said:

I think what is important is that if your first thought when seeing or speaking to someone larger is "they are greedy and/or lazy" then you have pre-judged them - there is so much else at play here which can lead into why someone might be considered overweight.  Like a lot of things it's important to kinda be aware of your own bias.

Of course this doesn't mean it's not OK to have a preference or anything like that, but accepting that is what it is.

But making assumptions on someone's lifestyle is rather short sighted.  Especially as yourself or a prospective partner is only really one medical complication away from piling on weight.

• Personal Experience • 10 years military career, 4 year officer training, 26 years athletic experience, masters degree in neurochemistry.

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16 minutes ago, Irish_Bunny said:

It's also the reason the world health network as a set daily calorie recommendation of 2000 cal diet. For the average daily activity, factoring in the average metabolism and the fact the average person burns 1400 kcal while sleeping for 6 hours. They assume one can consume 2000 calories and not gain weight and with some lose it when ones actives are increased. Ones genetics barely factor in, what factors in is ones consumption control and set activity to increase ones metabolical reaction.

one of the key words there is 'average' 

there is a lot which affects your metabolism : which, like I say can include illness or side effects of some medications or treatments.   There is also that, for a lot of people, survival and being able to eat anything is more important than crunching with a calculator.

And, y'know - sometimes nice things are "bad" for you.  But like, this is life.

Equally, if you are this concerned about healthy choices and taking care of yourself - everything kink based has a risk

Like, you are marked as being an escort - that is something which carries far more risk than being overweight - incidentally your certs have expired so you need to get tested again.  If you are still working you are putting others at risk right now due to being outside the 28 day period.  

Someone's weight does not put other people at risk.  So, kinda, spare the lectures. 

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Metabolism is definitely a big factor. Revving up the metabolism has a significant impact on calorie burn and *** sugar for ppl with Diabetes.

One root cause of overeating is genetics. A person can have an addiction to alcohol, but not to food, and vice versa.

I know a woman who was normal weight, then she had a baby, and all of a sudden she eats and eats and can’t stop herself. Now, she was normal weight, so that is not born genetics perhaps, but maybe a hormonal change that causes her to eat and be addicted to food.
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9 minutes ago, eyemblacksheep said:

one of the key words there is 'average' 

there is a lot which affects your metabolism : which, like I say can include illness or side effects of some medications or treatments.   There is also that, for a lot of people, survival and being able to eat anything is more important than crunching with a calculator.

And, y'know - sometimes nice things are "bad" for you.  But like, this is life.

Equally, if you are this concerned about healthy choices and taking care of yourself - everything kink based has a risk

Like, you are marked as being an escort - that is something which carries far more risk than being overweight - incidentally your certs have expired so you need to get tested again.  If you are still working you are putting others at risk right now due to being outside the 28 day period.  

Someone's weight does not put other people at risk.  So, kinda, spare the lectures. 

You don't seem to know what a metabolism is. It's not some sort of magical organ placed inside your body by an evil wizard. It only dictates how many continuous calories you burn during your day and after actives. It doesn't effect you burning activity calories in any way. It's the reason why some people can eat what they want because their metabolism continuous burns. All genetics does to your metabolism is slow it down. That still doesn't stop or prevent you from burning calories through activity. It also doesn't cause fat to magically appear.

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11 minutes ago, FunPleasureDominant said:
Metabolism is definitely a big factor. Revving up the metabolism has a significant impact on calorie burn and *** sugar for ppl with Diabetes.

One root cause of overeating is genetics. A person can have an addiction to alcohol, but not to food, and vice versa.

I know a woman who was normal weight, then she had a baby, and all of a sudden she eats and eats and can’t stop herself. Now, she was normal weight, so that is not born genetics perhaps, but maybe a hormonal change that causes her to eat and be addicted to food.

You just said it "addicted" addiction isn't genetic. All she has to do it put down that bag of cheeseburgers and get up off her ass.

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12 minutes ago, FunPleasureDominant said:

I know a woman who was normal weight, then she had a baby, and all of a sudden she eats and eats and can’t stop herself. Now, she was normal weight, so that is not born genetics perhaps, but maybe a hormonal change that causes her to eat and be addicted to food.

Hormone function also plays a part, yep.

Also as someone just pointed out to me - anyone who is asthmatic is at a disadvantage also due to (a) being limited on what exercise they may be able to do (b) literally taking a steroid based medication every day

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7 minutes ago, Irish_Bunny said:

You just said it "addicted" addiction isn't genetic. All she has to do it put down that bag of cheeseburgers and get up off her ass.

You are actually becoming quite offensive!

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55 minutes ago, Irish_Bunny said:

• Personal Experience • 10 years military career, 4 year officer training, 26 years athletic experience, masters degree in neurochemistry.

None of which makes you an authority on diet. It might make you an authority on your own health and fitness, but it doesn’t equip you to judge other people.

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45 minutes ago, Irish_Bunny said:

It's the reason why some people can eat what they want because their metabolism continuous burns. All genetics does to your metabolism is slow it down. That still doesn't stop or prevent you from burning calories through activity. It also doesn't cause fat to magically appear.

I'm not sure if you are deliberately missing what I'm saying. But.

If we have two people.

One can seemingly eat what they want and has a metabolism that continuously burns, they will be less likely to put on weight. Even though their eating habits could be deemed unhealthy.

Another person eating the same and doing the otherwise same activity but with a slower metabolism will put weight on.

In fact, person B could arguably eat 'healthier' and/or do more exercise yet still put weight on (or fail to lose weight. Whatever.) 

So despite person B having a 'better' lifestyle they might be larger and be prejudiced as being the less healthy one.  This is my point. This is my problem with what you're saying.

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39 minutes ago, SirArchA said:

You are actually becoming quite offensive!

I mean this in more than one sense of the word - I don't think he will last long on here.

1) Like his preference is obviously fine - but his words are likely to be off-putting to many he would seek to attract.  There's so much could happen to any of us causing us to gain weight.  

2) While there's a lot I don't agree with - due to SESTA/FOSTA rules he wouldn't be permitted a profile here.  As in, I don't agree with the SESTA/FOSTA law - I think he has a perfectly good right to be here, even if his attitude is slightly off at the moment.  But, yep, laws is laws.

 

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I kinda don't want to get all Columbo. But. "Just one more thing..."

Obviously there's a lot in the world with different opinions (or interpretations of facts) and different views.  But of all the threads in all of the forums, for someone to make their first posts on a thread to tear someone down, seems kinda... I dunno. Not the first impressions you'd want to give.

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50 minutes ago, eyemblacksheep said:

I'm not sure if you are deliberately missing what I'm saying. But.

If we have two people.

One can seemingly eat what they want and has a metabolism that continuously burns, they will be less likely to put on weight. Even though their eating habits could be deemed unhealthy.

Another person eating the same and doing the otherwise same activity but with a slower metabolism will put weight on.

In fact, person B could arguably eat 'healthier' and/or do more exercise yet still put weight on (or fail to lose weight. Whatever.) 

So despite person B having a 'better' lifestyle they might be larger and be prejudiced as being the less healthy one.  This is my point. This is my problem with what you're saying.

The only difference is the one with the healthier metabolism will lose more weight with less activities. It might be harder for the one with the slower metabolism but not impossible. What will count is the balance of intake of kcal or kcal burnt. If by weeks end they successfully burnt 3,600 kcal they would lose one pound of weight based on fat just like someone with a strong metabolism.

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42 minutes ago, Irish_Bunny said:

It might be harder for the one with the slower metabolism but not impossible.

Yep. We are in agreement here. But What I am saying is this often means it's not an even playing field.   

Person A does whatever to maintain their weight.

Person B might have to have a stricter diet (which might not always be nutritious or possible) or exercise more - how much more could be a factor and also this might be difficult if they have other impediments (asthma, arthritis, etc) 

There is also then the availability of space to exercise - a gym, for example, is a luxury product so beyond the financial means of many - it also might take someone time they do not have.    Some people have better access to green spaces or cycle paths than others.  For some their living arrangements might lack the means for home work outs.

Then there might be other commitments to navigate around - such as *** or care for others

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What hasn’t been mentioned yet is that gut bacteria is a major player in weight loss success. 

Recent research suggests that the composition of the gut microbiome can predict an individual’s likelihood of obesity. Differences in the functional profile of the gut microbiome are also associated with the body’s response to weight loss interventions. The study found that gut microbiome genes associated with bacterial replication and the breakdown of carbohydrates and proteins predicted weight loss response.

It’s simplistic and and unfair to people to claim it’s just about exercise and diet.

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Im all about body positive s**t and i spew it all the time to my bitches but truth is a corset lets me forget to suck my gut in and i enjoy myself so much more!

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2 hours ago, MissGuided said:

Im all about body positive s**t and i spew it all the time to my bitches but truth is a corset lets me forget to suck my gut in and i enjoy myself so much more!

I'd definitely second the corset~ As long as you aren't too uncomfortable wearing one I think that would likely be a good solution~ Plus they're just so 💙🍪💙

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