The danger of porn with the internet generation.

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5 minutes ago, Bons said:

Education is the solution to that, but complete education will mean complete openness to what there is to educate.

And that especially in countries like the UK will not happen in my lifetime. That's the problem though, there is an issue that needs discussion but we as a nation won't discuss it. The changes in recent times with the internet may eventually *** us to face it, shocking that a pre pubescent youngster can access the hard core stuff easy peasy. 

[qu****]

Even down to deodorant ads, my *** is involved with a twinning association so has German TV, round hers for dinner once and at midday an ad came on for dove or something, but breasts were shown, show an underarm over here and everyone cries out 🤷

[slutpuppy99]

i dont know why kids need cell phones. im 32 and dont have or need one.

being between gen X and gen Y its funny. growing up we didnt have cell phones.

the concept that social media and all of that is at all 'important" for children is the issue.

parents should just give there kid an old flip phone and a ps2. when my parents found porn on the computer, they locked the computer with a password.

honestly, its not even porn  that parents need to be worried about,

its tiktok, youtube, insta, , .

those are the real threats. kids watching porn isnt an issue as much as well....

anybody remember the cuties controversy? social media is doing that too your children, not porn.

[Deleted Member]

It’s all well and good to say lockdown the internet. But what happens when they are out and about? I can’t control what they see on others phones/devices i can only educate them and keep them grounded. As for social media, don’t get me stared🤦🏼‍♀️ I’ve seen first hand the damage it can do on such young minds. The expectations on body image, the *** they are not as good as the next or a rich or popular. But it’s the way of the word now and as a mum it’s my job to guide them. There are two industries that call there clients users, and thats drug dealers and social media platforms. And unfortunately I can’t keep them away from any of those I can only be open,honest and educate them enough to be safe.

[Bo****]

1 hour ago, slutpuppy99 said:

honestly, its not even porn  that parents need to be worried about,

its tiktok, youtube, insta, , .

I think you make a good point. This is my only form of social media, aside from a group chat (on the blue privacy and freedom-of-speach advocating rival (begins with a T) to Facebooks well known green messaging app (begins with a W)) with some old friends in another town, so I can only speak from the outside but to me it seems the popular social media is a real threat to the wellbeing of children and adults alike.

Edited November 15, 2020 by Bons
The names of two popular chat apps were removed but not Facebook etc. I find that unaccepable. Fetish, speak up and explain yourself.

[slutpuppy99]

yeah bons, its nuts. and as far as your kids when they are with other people is tough.

i would express the reasons why you limit there internet usage. and that potentially friends may use it for things that are not good.

its like the drug talk, let them know its ok to just say no. if they see something on another kids phone they odnt think is right, or that isnt appropriate. the are allowed to tell there friends they dont wanna see, or say they dont think its appropriate.

im sure the day will come they see stuff they shouldnt on a friends phone, but they should know its ok to not be comfortable with it.

[Chastity_Pup_Gabbia]

As have been mentioned in previous posts it's about education. You can't wrap your kids in cotton wool. I agree that porn a lot easier to access compared to swiping a magazine from an older relative or finding discarded ones in a woods. The Internet is abound. Parents can try and put locks on sites and all but kids have the tech knowhow to bypass these. But again, as mentioned, it's education. Like when I was growing up my parents told me what was real and not in movies. I was eight when I was watching movies like Enter the Dragon or the Terminator (both 18 certified at time of release) but I remember my mother telling me dangers of violent weapons and actions and that the stuff on screen was not real. Porn and social media would be difficult ban completely but guidance and education is the way forward. Also, breaks from it is a good idea too. But to end my input on a light not porn is sooo unrealistic. A plumber never turns up that ***y quick to a call out. 😂

[qu****]

It is the advent of social media, and consumer led video sites that have changed the adult entertainment industry, no longer is it here comes the electrician I'll stay in my dressing gown, but now it's here's my dirty slut of a girlfriend look what we did last night, these sites are far more influential as they are real, unfortunately now there's no way of closing the door as the horse has already bolted, 

Edited November 15, 2020 by quietlysure
Electrician not electron, closing not coding

[slutpuppy99]

49 minutes ago, ChastityPup said:

As have been mentioned in previous posts it's about education. You can't wrap your kids in cotton wool. I agree that porn a lot easier to access compared to swiping a magazine from an older relative or finding discarded ones in a woods. The Internet is abound. Parents can try and put locks on sites and all but kids have the tech knowhow to bypass these. But again, as mentioned, it's education. Like when I was growing up my parents told me what was real and not in movies. I was eight when I was watching movies like Enter the Dragon or the Terminator (both 18 certified at time of release) but I remember my mother telling me dangers of violent weapons and actions and that the stuff on screen was not real. Porn and social media would be difficult ban completely but guidance and education is the way forward. Also, breaks from it is a good idea too. But to end my input on a light not porn is sooo unrealistic. A plumber never turns up that ***y quick to a call out. 😂

but why do children have more access too the internet than adults? teachers used to smash phones with hammers. now they are allowed laptops in class.

do we have a rampant gun problem? not really becuase we dont hand guns to children and go "be responsible with this, keep it with you at all times" you teach a kid gun safety, and keep the guns locked up

[Bo****]

It's all subjective

[Deleted Member]

I've never been interested in porn mags or films really! It didn't play any part in how I have turned out to be now. It always seemed cheesy and poorly put together. My mates at the time would think there was something wrong with me for not being interested.

But when the internet turned up ,I used it to explore and seek others like me.

I wouldn't know what to say to young people about porn. They will either love it or hate it. Young people will always do the things they are told not to, it's part of life and learning, be it the experience good or bad...its part of growing up.

[Ki****]

28 minutes ago, slutpuppy99 said:

but why do children have more access too the internet than adults? teachers used to smash phones with hammers. now they are allowed laptops in class.

do we have a rampant gun problem? not really becuase we dont hand guns to children and go "be responsible with this, keep it with you at all times" you teach a kid gun safety, and keep the guns locked up

Most children access porn in their own homes, not school. Schools have controls in place to stop adult content, most homes don’t (perhaps because it would mean the adults can’t watch it either). Also I control what my daughter can see on her phone, but I can’t control what she’s shown by other people, and the internet isn’t like a gun that you can lock away. Controlling access to porn doesn’t really work with kids; they know it’s out there and they’ll find it. Education is the only way of making sure they understand what they’re seeing and stopping it from becoming a problem.

[slutpuppy99]

you can lock away the internet. do not give them access to it. when i was a kid, my parents would take the cords to the computer.

then i couldnt use internet. we had hte computer taken from us for six months.

[Ki****]

I wouldn’t date someone who watched a lot of porn anymore. Not only does it suggest that they aren’t able to find something more useful to do with their time (which is just sad) but because it changes how you view your sexual partners and sex itself (and I’m speaking from experience on both sides of the problem). I want healthy satisfying sex in real life and porn can get in the way of that so it doesn’t have a place in relationships for me.

[qu****]

Yes a parent can secure the internet at home, but not all would, and the same issue arises when they're out with friends, theyd just view it then, plus short of inspecting their mobiles on a daily basis they'd still have access, as I've said before how do you close the door when the horse has already bolted, you could only do this if every parent did the same thing, and they wont

[qu****]

All I can say is I'm glad that I've never wanted to have children, I'd be classed as an ogre by today's standards, there'd be no TV or dvd player in their bedroom, let alone a phone or computer..

[ey****]

The thing to always know is time and society is changing and whether some things are good or bad is subjective.

It's not a case of should kids have access to smart phones or not, it's that they do.  And even if you withhold one from a child, they can access via a friends.

Same for social media.  These are things that are here. That they have access to.  So it's kinda managing them and making sure they have the information to help stay safe or understand what it is they're looking at.

Before internet, there were always ways to access magazines or video/film that you shouldn't.  And, sometimes, it's a question of whether it's better being aware what they are accessing, or trying to stop everything and being unaware what is being accessed in private.

If you place trust, there's less likely to hide stuff from you.  But, it's all about awareness.

[Ky****]

16 hours ago, quietlysure said:

The difficulties with education will come from those ***agers who already feel sexually different, most education will be focused on vanilla relationships, but run the risk of being seen to encourage kinky relationships if overly discussed, a lot of parents already get angry with what their kids are taught

as in section 28, pushed by the Daily Mail and blue rinse

[Ky****]

the problem with relying on parental control is that in the modern world everyone has to learn the skills to access restricted material, whether its porn, terrorism or whatever.  I'm afraid trying to exert parental control will have 2 effects.  The first is the forbidden fruit syndrome.  The second is denying the chance to practice vital skills for the adult world.  The solution has to be through social programmes. education and information to ensure the majority realise that hard core porn is no different to slasher movies, on screen entertainment only

[ey****]

5 minutes ago, Kymi said:

as in section 28, pushed by the Daily Mail and blue rinse

Yep - this was the argument used to stop education about LGBTQ+

It doesn't actually stop things, it just moves more underground and pushes more out 

[qu****]

Another problem that would happen if the internet was able to restrict access or certain types of adult entertainment is it would just continue on the dark web, thus making problems even worse

[Deleted Member]

I think for a parent in the modetn age its a little of "you're damned if you do and you're damned if you dont". As with everything else in life, it's about finding the right balance for that individual youngster. With respect to those who believe censorship and restricted access to the net are the answer for me part of a parents job is to actually expose our kids to the darker sides of life. Thereby armouring them to some level before, they step into the big bad world. To hide the truth of what the world is, again with respect is burying your head in the sand and for me could actually later in life cause more serious issues. 

[ey****]

30 minutes ago, quietlysure said:

Another problem that would happen if the internet was able to restrict access or certain types of adult entertainment is it would just continue on the dark web, thus making problems even worse

there's been assorted censorship plans (and there are rules websites must follow) and they're just not workable - for so many reasons.   That the Digital Economy Act keeps getting long grassed (or rather, the section about online pornography) speaks for itself.