Let's improve Fetish.com together!

[HSDMASTER]

There needs to be a greater diversity of moderators in terms of race and gender aka not just mainly females or submissive type males. Male moderators who understand males whether Doms or otherwise. We need some moderators who understand what misandry or toxic femininity [yes they exist;-p] are and are not afraid to spot it and penalise it the same way they would if a female complains about not liking beng spoken to honestly. I know we live in female gynocracy where everyone is so scared to hold females accountable or correct them for *** of being cancelled or monetary purposes but we need to maintain a balance and not trample on the rights of men to placate female sensitivities. Walking on eggshells is not good for either party;-)  [Let's have some logical responses not emotive ones if possible..place your bets;-)]

[ey****]

Hmm. Like firstly I know the mods on here are largely anonymised - but I know those behind the site are quite varied

but also - generally speaking you wouldn't know if another user had been spoken to, given points, or warnings or so on - you'd only know what you'd been given : so there's some stuff you can't make assumptions on.  But I know you can appeal if you felt points you were given were unfair.   

that said, I am aware there are many women who've had points or warnings, or been spoken to, because they've posted about it.  

[ey****]

As a side note.

Misandry is often misused as a term.

the majority of times I've seen people complain about Misandry on this site, and others, perhaps they themselves need to learn what misandry is because it's not "I'm tired of messages from creepy/entitled men" nor is it calling out male behaviour

 

[CopperKnob]

I'm interested to know how you know that the team behind Fet lack diversity.
I'm also interested of any examples as to when men's rights have been trampled over on Fet whether it has been to placate the sensitive nature of women or otherwise.

[Deleted Member]

The app is quite good, but there just aren't as many people on this app as Grindr. On Grindr I'd find someone within a few minutes to hours, but nothing yet. I keep on getting results of people too far away.

I'm also not a fan of mixing gay and straight people together in this app in my honest opinion, it seems to make things more complicated.
It would be far better if gay people can only see gay people and straight people can only see straight people.

[ge****]

Yesterday at 10:03 AM, xjohnnyh_98 said:

The app is quite good, but there just aren't as many people on this app as Grindr. On Grindr I'd find someone within a few minutes to hours, but nothing yet. I keep on getting results of people too far away.

I'm also not a fan of mixing gay and straight people together in this app in my honest opinion, it seems to make things more complicated.
It would be far better if gay people can only see gay people and straight people can only see straight people.

And where does that leave us bisexuals who may be interested in meeting gay or straight people? If they wanted to meet us of course?
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And you can use filters in your searches to only find gay people you know?
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As for comparing here to Grindr - they're two totally different things, here isn't a hook up site in the way that Grindr is or can be

[CopperKnob]

Yesterday at 10:03 AM, xjohnnyh_98 said:

The app is quite good, but there just aren't as many people on this app as Grindr. On Grindr I'd find someone within a few minutes to hours, but nothing yet. I keep on getting results of people too far away.

I'm also not a fan of mixing gay and straight people together in this app in my honest opinion, it seems to make things more complicated.
It would be far better if gay people can only see gay people and straight people can only see straight people.

Well, I think that Fet is a little more refined than Grindr. The two apps cater for quite different needs/wants
I guess that if we separate the straights from the gays that we'd also want to separate the bi's and the NB's right?
(Sarcasm)

[CopperKnob]

3 hours ago, gemini_man said:

And where does that leave us bisexuals who may be interested in meeting gay or straight people? If they wanted to meet us of course?
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And you can use filters in your searches to only find gay people you know?
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As for comparing here to Grindr - they're two totally different things, here isn't a hook up site in the way that Grindr is or can be

Just wrote the exact same thing 🙄

[ge****]

11 hours ago, CopperKnob said:

Just wrote the exact same thing 🙄

Like minds and all that 😊

[PickyPrincess]

There are 2 other chat rooms never used. 

Can you rename them?

Many people come online to roleplay and it's a rule in general chat.  They either act up and cause trouble or they leave.  If you had a roleplay chat we could redirect there. It's simple, no drama and you keep users instead of them quitting?

Win win.

 

Also maybe rename the other dead channel foe Littles or some other specific chat that struggles in the general chat?  Or over 35? Or another group you know needs an area to feel comfortable in?

 

I think the number of chatters remains low due to frustration on all sides... and they either cause problems and make people quit .. or they can't roleplay or do specific chat and they leave.   General chat will never really grow... which is not a good business model. 

[Je****]

For Penalty points.....

 

I have been in lobby and seen a few people who are in there daily without fail, being their authentic selves and yet have had points given just over last few days, for banter or swearing etc. This is not ok. There is months this stuff they say and their personalities arent penalised so why now? There has to be a reason that needs sieved out. 

Also, it would MASSIVELY help if this site could include the following when a penalty point notification comes up....

- Who has pointed you. Mod initials so you are aware of who to contact or any sinister patterns there.

- What you have done or said that's wrong... For example saying "you've offended members".... Is not enough. HOW has someone offended members? Where they bullying or harassing people? Or has a mod perhaps came in and seen someone calling someone else a "bitch" in jest per their friendship, and its been taken out of context? 

How is someone supposed to reign in on comments or behaviour that's "wrong", if they don't even know what they're doing or saying that's breaching rules/terms?

- There is currently NO option to dispute the points given, there is only an accept button. How is someone supposed to be treated fairly, when they do not agree with a penalty but HAVE to accept said points before they have access to the site again? Be it to socialise, date, or even contact a mod or support?

There should be an accept button... and a dispute button. Along with the quote on offending comment, or example of behaviour, and mod name, I think it would be very beneficial to members to be able to have their say than be penalised with no clue what for. 

 

[PickyPrincess]

Points...

 

People are receiving points but with no message why, no screenshots and no way to respond to the complaint.

 

How can someone correct their wrong behavior if you don't tell them what they are doing wrong??  The screenshot should be shared at the same time the mod or admin is reviewing it... so no extra steps or time involved for the mod.  Just one extra button "share screenshot" for your IT dept to add.

That should be the bare minimum to help your users ... who feel frustrated and confused.

 

Also if you could add another option to accept or dispute the points... that would be great customer service 🥰

[Sh****]

Every profile should have to be verified. Also where does it show that someone is verified?! This site is full of fake profiles :(

[ey****]

1 hour ago, ShelbyxBBW said:

Every profile should have to be verified. Also where does it show that someone is verified?! This site is full of fake profiles

it tells you if they're verified under profile picture

also, when setting filters on the browse you can choose to only return profiles who are verified 

[Al****]

I got my *** back from Apple because they stuck me with points without explanation and also cos the app was so glitchy. Since then in early September it’s got worse.

[Ha****]

October 16, eyemblacksheep said:

it tells you if they're verified under profile picture

also, when setting filters on the browse you can choose to only return profiles who are verified 

Unfortunately verification means nothing. I used a reverse image search to prove that a users profile pic was fake, reported it to the site, and the profile is still active - with the same fake pic.

[Ha****]

It's easy to enable verification. Just link every account to either a credit card or mobile number. Will instantly verify user is in the country they say they are in, and makes it much more difficult to repeatedly keep creating accounts once you've been removed once. Too easy to just go and create a free new email address.

[Ha****]

And the points systems.... I got a warning for attaching a picture to a forum post, being told that it's not allowed - even though they put a button allowing you to attach pics! You couldn't make it up!

[Ha****]

September 18, shore said:

Somebody from fet needs to explain me something…
How is it possible that a user is being put into being validated, then passing this test but still showing up with the same fake pictures being grabbed from xhamster. That’s still fake?!
I mean, I hope you are not blindly ignoring things but it feels like your process there is broken by design.
Right now I am thinking about writing a bot which is fake checking new pictures just to open automated tickets to you because I am just getting annoyed by it how many profiles I am reporting and nothing happens.

Yeah, I've reported profiles that I've proved are using fake profiles, and they still exist, with the same fake pics, and still saying the profile is verified.

[ge****]

3 hours ago, HatfieldMaster said:

Unfortunately verification means nothing. I used a reverse image search to prove that a users profile pic was fake, reported it to the site, and the profile is still active - with the same fake pic.

Verification of an account here is actually fairly strong, I seem to remember having to submit a video that not only showed my face but also showed my driving licence.
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The problem is that once verification has been done, a user is free to alter things and submit whatever pics they want and that is a lot more difficult to Police.
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Remember also that just because a pic reverse images to elsewhere it doesn't automatically mean that the profile is fake - yeah sure in many instances it'll be obvious if it gets multiple hits on multiple porn sites - but even so some users won't only post their pics here - so a degree of common sense is required. Either way I've mostly found the site to be very good at taking action when profiles are reported, but given most of the mods/admin are volunteers giving their time when they can it's inevitable that some will slip through the net, which is why it's important for us as users to help the site help ourselves by reporting in the first place, and if something is genuinely and obviously off about a profile to report again if it's been missed.
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The problem with credit cards and phone numbers is many people won't be willing to share that information to a site for *** of fraudulent use, especially when they first encounter a site and don't know it's "safe" - and even if they do it comes back to what I mentioned at the start in that it may verify a profile at that point in time, but does nothing to stop it being changed once verification has been done.

[Ha****]

57 minutes ago, gemini_man said:

Verification of an account here is actually fairly strong, I seem to remember having to submit a video that not only showed my face but also showed my driving licence.
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The problem is that once verification has been done, a user is free to alter things and submit whatever pics they want and that is a lot more difficult to Police.
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Remember also that just because a pic reverse images to elsewhere it doesn't automatically mean that the profile is fake - yeah sure in many instances it'll be obvious if it gets multiple hits on multiple porn sites - but even so some users won't only post their pics here - so a degree of common sense is required. Either way I've mostly found the site to be very good at taking action when profiles are reported, but given most of the mods/admin are volunteers giving their time when they can it's inevitable that some will slip through the net, which is why it's important for us as users to help the site help ourselves by reporting in the first place, and if something is genuinely and obviously off about a profile to report again if it's been missed.
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The problem with credit cards and phone numbers is many people won't be willing to share that information to a site for *** of fraudulent use, especially when they first encounter a site and don't know it's "safe" - and even if they do it comes back to what I mentioned at the start in that it may verify a profile at that point in time, but does nothing to stop it being changed once verification has been done.

The image was an obvious fake. Not only did it look extremely photoshopped/AI generated, it also has a watermark of a website that is used to manipulate images, and I also provided a link to what appears to be an original of that photo (had no watermark) and it had a completely different face on the body. So like i said, verification means nothing.

I'm sorry but if a FREE user isn't willing to share their credit card or phone number with the site, then why should PAYING customers trust them? And the point of this, is not to provide a foolproof method of verification, but to prevent the same people creating fake profiles again and again, because it is so easy to create email addresses - there is no cost to this. I see it all the time, you report someone for being fake, underage, a scammer etc, the account is deleted, and half an hour later there is another account with an almost identical username or using the same pics etc.

[ge****]

41 minutes ago, HatfieldMaster said:

The image was an obvious fake. Not only did it look extremely photoshopped/AI generated, it also has a watermark of a website that is used to manipulate images, and I also provided a link to what appears to be an original of that photo (had no watermark) and it had a completely different face on the body. So like i said, verification means nothing.

I'm sorry but if a FREE user isn't willing to share their credit card or phone number with the site, then why should PAYING customers trust them? And the point of this, is not to provide a foolproof method of verification, but to prevent the same people creating fake profiles again and again, because it is so easy to create email addresses - there is no cost to this. I see it all the time, you report someone for being fake, underage, a scammer etc, the account is deleted, and half an hour later there is another account with an almost identical username or using the same pics etc.

I wasn't suggesting in the instance you referred to that the picture wasn't fake - more making the general point that just because a picture reverse images doesn't automatically mean the profile is fake.
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So, you'd be willing to submit your credit card details and phone number to ANY site that requested it as a means of authentication? I know I certainly wouldn't, not until I had a level of trust in that site - if that means people label me as fake then so be it, but I'd rather that than find I'd been scammed by a site I have no knowledge of initially.
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Yes, there is no foolproof method of verification, beyond very costly and impractical methods - but to suggest that people should be willing to submit credit card or phone details to a site they don't know is naive at best.
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Even if people willingly submitted their details, they still need to be checked - which comes at a cost to the site, how is that going to be paid for? And ultimately what real difference would it make? In these days where scamming is big business the scammers won't be deterred by such measures.
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Unfortunately the only way that people can protect themselves against scammers and fakes is to be aware of them and not so easily taken in - sadly on sites like this people (especially men) are so desperate for attention that they make themselves *** time and again to fakes/scammers.

[ey****]

5 hours ago, HatfieldMaster said:

Unfortunately verification means nothing. I used a reverse image search to prove that a users profile pic was fake, reported it to the site, and the profile is still active - with the same fake pic.

I wouldn't say it meant nothing.   There are stuff will slip systems, absolutely.  But certainly if you filter on verified users - most will be who they say they are.

It can take a lot to actual prove something is fake.  There is a Pro Domme I know who was on here for dating, who got flagged as an image search recognised her and she was booted for being "fake" : it is probably worth contacting support with as much info as possible as why you believe the person to be fake - as that will help

But a lot of this is very much Internet 101 anyway.    

The more hoops you place in front of someone to verify, the less likely they are to wish to join.   The best way arguably is to have someone upload their government ID, show themselves posed with it - and use facial recognition to check each photo uploaded is the same person - but other than not everyone having government ID - the amount of people who would question why this was required who might otherwise be 'genuine' users would outweigh those who would verify
 

[Ha****]

40 minutes ago, gemini_man said:

I wasn't suggesting in the instance you referred to that the picture wasn't fake - more making the general point that just because a picture reverse images doesn't automatically mean the profile is fake.
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So, you'd be willing to submit your credit card details and phone number to ANY site that requested it as a means of authentication? I know I certainly wouldn't, not until I had a level of trust in that site - if that means people label me as fake then so be it, but I'd rather that than find I'd been scammed by a site I have no knowledge of initially.
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Yes, there is no foolproof method of verification, beyond very costly and impractical methods - but to suggest that people should be willing to submit credit card or phone details to a site they don't know is naive at best.
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Even if people willingly submitted their details, they still need to be checked - which comes at a cost to the site, how is that going to be paid for? And ultimately what real difference would it make? In these days where scamming is big business the scammers won't be deterred by such measures.
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Unfortunately the only way that people can protect themselves against scammers and fakes is to be aware of them and not so easily taken in - sadly on sites like this people (especially men) are so desperate for attention that they make themselves *** time and again to fakes/scammers.

Stop being silly. Of course i'm not going to enter my credit card details ANY random site that i visit, but if i've done my checks and want to join the site, then its a reasonable expectation. You're literally arguing that people who want to use the site for FREE should not be obliged to do something that PAYING customers have to.

There are loads of dating / phone apps that use mobile number as a way of identifying unique users. What's so strange or outrageous about that? And what's so outrageous about asking people to verify their identity, just as betting/gambling sites do? The only reason dating sites don't do it is because they benefit from having fake profiles engaging with users.

Cost? What cost? The site already accepts credit cards. Doing a credit card check take seconds and costs nothing. Same for mobile phone numbers. How costly is it to send a text message to the mobile number with a verification code? There is no human interaction / staff costs involved.

 

[CopperKnob]

It seems that there's a choice to be made. Pay or don't pay but don't disparage others for choosing an option different to your own.
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Whether someone is fake or not shouldn't really be an issue for any of us as individuals unless we're interacting with them and unable to see the signs. Of course we can report profiles etc but it's then up to Fet to decide on what action to take or not.
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Many people won't add phone numbers, credit card details or much other personal information online for obvious security issues unless its necessary and particularly not a kink site given potential consequences specifically around employment. It's not necessary here and so, it brings me back to my first point, there's a choice.
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There are fakes and scammers all over the Internet and that won't ever change regardles how much we complain about it. Its something that we, as adults, need to acknowledge if we're going to be making use of social media/s.