Intimacy educator, sex coach and author Stella Harris tackles the issue of dealing with 'wannabe' or fake Dominants online - and gives her advice on how to spot them.
 

In one thread on Fetish.com, a member lamented the difficulty of meeting people online, especially when adding D/s dynamics. They said, "Just because I'm looking for a Dom, does not mean I am looking to be disrespected."  Their experience is worth digging into
 

Taking precautions

Any time you're meeting new people, you need to take some precautions and have a bit of your guard up. It's easy to tip too far in either direction and have interactions that range from unsuccessful to dangerous. It's a tricky balance because you need to figure out how to be open enough to get to know someone and give them a chance while also keeping yourself safe.

While this is true for life in general and certainly for online dating, it can pose some particular challenges when you add kink to the mix. For one thing, when you share any subgroup with someone, it's tempting to give them the benefit of the doubt. Especially when the group you share is one that the mainstream stigmatises, there's this feeling that we're in this together.

Unfortunately, no one gets a pass just because they're kinky too. I fall into the same trap when I'm in kink spaces of wanting to feel that everyone is "my people." But in reality, kink, BDSM and fetish communities are just made up of people — and the same percentage of people are problematic anywhere you go.
 

Understanding people's motivations

It's worth noting that the riskier the thing you want to do — whether physically or emotionally — the more vetting you need to do around safety, and that includes the other person's motivations for wanting to engage in their kinks. 

While Dom/sub dynamics might seem run-of-the-mill to people who've been around kink spaces for a while, the fact remains that playing with power requires as much training as rope bondage, impact play, or any other BDSM activity. But it's not always treated that way. 

It's easy to get online and start bossing people around. But that's not D/s; neither is it kink - that's just being a jerk. The problem is that a fake Dom (or bad behaviour in general) can often hide in plain sight in kink spaces, whether online or at venues or events. 

The only thing dividing many kinks from abuse is consent and negotiation. But from the outside, it's often impossible to know what negotiation is in place. You just see the behaviour. Especially with some D/s play that can be visible, we can forget that these dynamics must be as communicated in advance as any other aspect of a scene or relationship. 

Man with BDSM toys. How to handle wannabe or fake doms
Playing with power requires training, but it's not always treated that way. 

 

What to watch out for with fake Doms

When you're deciding who to engage with online, especially if you're going to engage in any D/s dynamics, there are a few things you can look out for. 

  • The biggest red flag, in my opinion, is when a fake Dom brings you into their dynamic without asking. If they start talking to you like you're their submissive, giving orders, or making demands before any negotiation is in place - turn away. The same goes for a wannabe or fake Dom who expects you to call them by any honorific or title before you've negotiated those roles. Imagine how it would go if someone at a party just walked up to a stranger and hit them with a paddle — most of us would agree that's assault, and they'd get booted from the venue. That interaction would be nonconsensual. So why should we let it fly for someone to engage in their power play (online or offline) when it hasn't been agreed?
     
  • Some fake Dominants will also be impatient and try to skip to the subject of sex very early in the conversation, whether pushing for cybersex or wanting to play on the first date - they don't try to get to know you first, and it is something to be aware of. 
     
  • Before engaging in power dynamics, ask the same vetting question you would for any other kind of play and get references. Find out what someone's experience is, what training they've had, and how they plan to keep you safe. Honest Doms will always be happy for you to check their references and experience. And ensure these negotiations and conversations are made as equals, outside of any dynamic. 


If something feels off, it probably is. Remember, it's only a power exchange if both people have power. If a fake Dom treats you like they own you from the first message, there's no exchange there; they're merely talking. So trust your gut. 


Stella Harris writes for a variety of sexy and kinky websites, as well as having written and published erotic fiction.
 

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On 2/9/2022 at 7:55 PM, sonofthunder777 said:

It's unfortunate, but I've heard far too many stories about brand new subs getting taken advantage of by predatory "doms". Ending up getting tied up & robbed or even borderline tortured. This could be due to the 'sub frenzy' that many new submissives have, wanting to try everything with everyone... But the true fault always comes down to these predators masquerading as Doms. These people should be shunned from the community, just like people who don't play nice & don't respect limits & safe words. I'd say it's the same basic problem. The world is full of bad people. In every walk of life, they greatly outnumber the good ones. Exercise extreme caution at all times with all people, especially people you've never played with before.

It is also the Submissive's duty to have her or his wits about them!! If you don't use your common sense then people will take advantage 

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Pegasus295

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Every time I got that I would get asked for money, within like 5 more messages. It's like fucking clockwork. Defo a fraudster.

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Excellent

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💯 I matched with someone on a dating app a few weeks ago, she said she was a dominatrix and I told her I'm interested in exploring that dynamic. First thing out of her mouth, she's like "do you agree to submit to me completely and do everything I command, no questions asked?" LOL I was like "do you agree consent is important?" A while passes, she responds "I don't have time to mess around", something like that. So I say "without consent you're jusy a sexual predator. Understanding the difference will make you more successful", then I reported and blocked her. 😂 what a jerk
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It's unfortunate, but I've heard far too many stories about brand new subs getting taken advantage of by predatory "doms". Ending up getting tied up & robbed or even borderline tortured. This could be due to the 'sub frenzy' that many new submissives have, wanting to try everything with everyone... But the true fault always comes down to these predators masquerading as Doms. These people should be shunned from the community, just like people who don't play nice & don't respect limits & safe words. I'd say it's the same basic problem. The world is full of bad people. In every walk of life, they greatly outnumber the good ones. Exercise extreme caution at all times with all people, especially people you've never played with before.
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2 hours ago, Bathblonde said:

Regardless of the person being a Sub, they’re not your Sub and should not be approached as such!

Bathblonde has hit the nail on the head right there. A person recently posted it very well that although they state they are into CNC the messages stating they were going to rape her were not CNC as she did not consent to it. Assuming a sub will go weak at the knees because you've decided they are worthy of you taking them on as a sub without even speaking to them is pathetic and certainly a red flag. 

The fact some think that being polite or talking to a sub like a human first and not a wank toy to just you cock at is a red flag is rather telling of how big the problem of fake Doms is.

 

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1 hour ago, OnlyMatt420 said:

I don't believe that as a red flag, approaching a conversation online as a Dom to a sub because their profile is there as an introduction before the conversation. It's hard to communicate to someone with no pic or profile description. When they come out as a sub in their profile I believe it's acceptable to approach them in a role play scenario. A red flag is when the conversation starts off vanilla.

Regardless of the person being a Sub, they’re not your Sub and should not be approached as such!

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Love this, a really good way of explaining the difference. If you'd like some more ideas of 'Red Flags' to look out for then you might find Fifty Shades of Nope a useful read. 

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nice and very true

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At onlymatt420 - Red flag is when a Dom assumes a role that hasn't been previously discussed and agreed with the potential submissive. It's not by them politely making contact to see if the submissive wants to chat with the Dom.
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I don't believe that as a red flag, approaching a conversation online as a Dom to a sub because their profile is there as an introduction before the conversation. It's hard to communicate to someone with no pic or profile description. When they come out as a sub in their profile I believe it's acceptable to approach them in a role play scenario. A red flag is when the conversation starts off vanilla.

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Excellent article, thank you!

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the fact you think this only affects male subs…

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I'm not a male sub so it doesn't directly affect me, but the number of Dommes with their "approach, worm" attitude....
If I did that as a Dom.. I wouldn't get far.
As for the seemingly increasing Findom attitude....
Good luck all 🤣

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Wonderful article definitely needs to show this to a few creepy and thirsty doms I’ve met on here!

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Slaveeddie66

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Ok..I'm game

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Spex65

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I wish I had this information when I finally got into the lifestyle as I wouldn't have been scammed but now I think I'll be better prepared
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na****

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❤️❤️❤️Love this topic. So many on FET
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You should see the cheek of some there well establish LS or Pro that have worked on kink.com or beloved followers on social media and someone thinks a few stolen pics is actually going to work

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MasterScorpio

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I caught a "real south Florida Domme"  using a famous Domme named Lady Asmondena's  picture 

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Social first in day time busy place, don’t push for play or sex straight away make a decision after several meets if necessary. That’s if they make it to an actual social after talking on a other platform (at a later date) phone calls, video calls, ID check and safety of the other person in mind.

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Just google the BDSM Acid test but in the main anyone who doesn’t respect your boundaries, always swings the conversation towards a sexual nature, insistent on titles from the offset, makes you feel uncomfortable or pushes you into making a choice by applying pressure, no consideration of your life your side of all of this.

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Almost off topic going full onto scammers and adding a verification process to the sign up. I am sure there are plenty of scam topics or website/app complaints :-) I cant see any verification process that confirm D/s status ! :handcuffs:

Looking at the positives; its mostly a free service as it stands. 

Back on topic how can we check if someone is a genuine Dom or sub? Or do we simply take a risk and meetup after a period of online chit chat?

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2 minutes ago, MasterScorpio said:

And 95% of them are pure scammers

It would be so much easier if verification was a must on sign up, the site would get a better reputation for having it and the 95% would go down a bit, it would just get rid of the fake photo profiles but its a start lol

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MasterScorpio

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And 95% of them are pure scammers
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